Talk me down, brothers!

[ParameterMan]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

I've used a few digital multi-effect systems and they always seem to glitch in the middle of a gig. I've developed a serious distaste for having all my eggs in one very expensive and delicate basket. It also seems to me that analog effects feel a little more "real" or more part of the guitar sound instead of floating on top. I also really like being able to tweak things in the middle of a gig.

It would make a cool replacement for your mod and delay pedals though. If you do end up getting one, I'd keep your drive pedals for sure.

Tor brings up a good point as well - once you go this route, you lose the ability to pick up new shiny pedals to change out parts of your sound, and the resale value of the unit probably isn't all that awesome. And experimenting with new pedals is half the fun, right?

 

[Rich_S]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

Or make your own filtered powersupply....it is not very difficult at worst

I've been using DIY regulated 9 volt supplies for 30 years, but now I need an isolated filtered supply. Difficult, no, but a major pain in the ass. Multi-secondary transformers are readily available, but mounting all those bridges and regulators and filter caps... eight of everything! The hassle is worth the $170 a Pedal Power 2+ (or a CM Pro Power) costs.

 

[SteveAlysis]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

You should keep the dirt, sell the modulation/delays and look into an M13. The mods/delays on it are pretty darn good. A buddy of mine just got his used for $280

 

[ratherdashing]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

I'm very much a "don't reinvent the wheel" kind of person. It's all well and good that I could build myself an isolated, filtered, regulated power supply, but I definitely won't do a better job than Voodoo Lab, and I definitely will spend more than $170 when I add up the cost of my time.

There's absolutely no shame in throwing in the towel on DIY stuff. It's just common sense. Unless building and troubleshooting readily available circuits is your idea of a good time, why bother? Sometimes you get a lot more satisfaction from letting the pros do all that work for you and play your guitar.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

I'd keep the board, and if it's noisy replace the DIY power supply with a Voodoo Lab. I'd probably start using regular cables, instead of the internally wired way you're doing it.

Also, keep the OD pedals and wah. Then, put the TC on the board to replace the modulation pedals.

 

[Rich_S]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

Well, I'm keeping the board, but taking a step-by-step approach. Lazarus1140 is sending me his Nova Delay for a try-before-you-buy deal. Assuming I like it, I'll see if the noise problems are improved by getting the DD-3s off the main power supply. If not, I'll go the real-cables-and-power supply route as I can afford it.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

Hehe no it is not difficult!
Plenty of stuff to get for that!

 

[Rich_S]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

Hehe no it is not difficult!
Plenty of stuff to get for that!

Like what?

 

[WhoFan]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

i love pedal boards... the new ones like the Nova and the Line 6 M13 and the larger ones are tempting.... but in the end for me myself as a player i perfer a great sounding amp and guitar set up with minimum effects so these digital devices are not 100% my thing... but i still use the odd modeler amp/preamp for rehearsals...

but whenever gigging i prefer stand alone pedals that are not complicated to get the sounds i want fast... here's a good example... i have a love for Flangers and own a few now... among them i have the EVH MXR Flanger and a MXR Micro Flanger... the Micro won me over as it sounds just as good as the EVH to me and has 2 less knobs to fool with... i can dial in useable sounds faster...

i hate having to read indtructions to change patches and controlls... that drives me nuts... so as much as i want those modern pedalboards, i don't think i could use them to their fullest...

mind ya for the bedroom i'm looking at getting one of those new Fender modeler amps... Mustangs or whatever they are called... i like them....

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

I will say this...

I like Kev I personally don't give a cap about a little noise now and then from my board or rig or whatever, I just don't care as long as it's not too bad.

That said when you're playing for other people some of them do care...if you taking a gig as a side man or even just as a stand in there is only so much you can get away with...

I use old amps that are prone to noise, I use a lot of single coil guitars that are prone to buzz, I use tape echo which on top of being hissy also squeeks as the tape roles and I'm nuts about fuzz boxes, transistor boost pedals and wah pedal all of which pickup up noise and even radio stations now and then so anything I can do to take a little noise away is a good thing.

I had no interest in using new amps, delay pedals, noiseless "single coil" pickups and you can have my fuzz box when you pry it from my cold dead hands so killing s much of the pedalboard noise as possible was a must!

Adding a PPII+ and using quality George L's cables trimmed down enough noise form my rig that I no longer get hounded about my noise trap rig...there is still plenty of noise form time to time but it's not coming from the board!

Sure it's not cheap but good stuff rarely is but it was worth every penny!

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

Like what?

Transformers, power regulators, rectifiers, caps, resistors...schematics are plenty too...
You can make it how you want it to....

 

[Rich_S]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!

That's what I said: the parts are easy to come by. I have most of them in my parts drawers already. However, when we're talking about a supply with eight isoloated outputs, mounting all those parts gets to be a hassle. I can't just bolt eight voltage regulators to a strip of aluminum - that would kill the isolation. PS circuits are simple, but the mecahnical assembly is a PITA when you get into multpile isolated outputs.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Talk me down, brothers!


Make a dratted thick assed PCB