Talk to me about Graph Tech

nightwing122087

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I've read about Graph Tech products in magazines and on this board. It seems that they have a lot of very useful products to update your guitar and make them either sound better, make them more efficient, or both. I've been thinking to replacing a few things on my Strat like the bridge saddles.
I saw that they had these things called Tusq saddles, which I've only heard of recently, as well as 'string saver' saddles. Do either of these things help with tone and/or tuning stability?

What are your experiences with Graph Tech products?
 
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Great stuff IMO. My Carvin Bolt+ has the Graph Tech saddles and nut. I Never break any strings and the guitar never goes out of tune,of course it has Sperzel locking tuners as well!! Some people will say that Graphite saddles affects the tone, but my Carvin sounds amazing. YMMV.
 
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I have graphite saddles on many of my guitars. My main reason was I kept breaking stings, so after a few questions back and fourth I decided to replace the saddles on my Strat. That was like 10 years ago and I have still not broken a string on this guitar. Some people will tell you that the graphite will change the tone..... I think it does a little, but its hardly noticeable to me. I also have replaced the saddles on several other guitars with the string savers. Same result. I now have graphite on almost all my electrics. I have them on all my Strats, all but one Tele (my vintage Tele has brass), both of my Les Pauls & my 335. I have a few other guitars that I have not had any trouble with so I have not changed them (yet).

Here is what I found.

#1. I never break strings anymore
#2. My guitars stay in tune better
#3. The graphite adds a little warmth to the tone.

There are a few products available. The String savers & The Ferraglides. The string savers are a simple replacement saddle made entirely from graphite., The Ferraglides are a metal saddle like the originals with a thin graphite insert under the string. The Ferraglides I feel sound more like an original Strat saddle then the string savers, but they both work very well. I use them both. The Ferraglides will look more like the originals as well.

I also have Graphite nuts on a few guitars. These will also help if you use a Whammy to keep the strings from pinching at the nut. I even went one step further & installed a set of locking Sperzels on my one Start that I use the whammy a lot on & the stability is very good, much better than it ever was before.

I know a lot of people also use the Tusq, which I thought was for replacement saddles & nuts for acoustics. I have no real experience with this product as all my acoustics are equipped with either bone or Ivory nuts & saddles. With acoustics its more about how it affects tone more so than string fatigue. I rarely break strings on acoustics (I use 13"s) so I usually consider the tone over performance. I have read that this is now available for electrics as well.

Here is where you can find a lot of info about the products.

http://www.graphtech.com/products.html?SubCategoryID=35

They also now make a drop in Tone Pro replacement bridge for a Les Paul. Just remove the old bridge & drop in a new one.

When I bought my Guild Bluesbird this was not available & the posts on the Guilds bridge were a little different, so I would up having to drill out the holes on an Old ABR I had so I could replce the saddles on it. The bridge that came with my Guild ( a Goto) the screws that are used to intonate the guitar would not come out, so I just replaced the bridge with this old APR with the string Savers. Same thing I have not broken a string on any of the guitars & the tuning stability is great I would highly recommend this product that has any of the above issues. These will definitely help!

Another point is the graphite & Tusq from what I understand is the same material, just that the Tusq is white, so if you are attempting to keep a Strat for example look "Vintage" Tusq might be a better choice. A Black Graphite nut on an old maple fingerboard Strat could look pretty funky IMHO.
 
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I have two Strats with Graphtec saddles. One of them also has a Graphtec nut, and the other will probably have one soon.

I am a big fan. They're definitely a sustain improvement over most stock saddles, and string breakage is a non-issue for me now. Some people say they make your tone muddy, but that's probably because they're used to overly bright steel saddles. Graphtec's don't actually reduce the high end - in reality it's the metal saddles that cut mids and lows.
 
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I have Graphtech saddled that came with my TonePros locking TOM bridge.

The original Gibson TOM had a burr in it that caused string breakage.

The Graphtech has fully eliminated that problem. Now that I think about it, I haven't broken a string since. I also like 'em because they don't seem to get those grooves in 'em from the strings like regular saddles do. I often change tunings, so tuning is smoother and more stable.

I can't really comment if it improves tone. I'll be honest and admit I don't really hear that much of a difference. but it definetely does not rob or hurt your tone at all. All of the benefits support the idea that better tone is achieved and I will not argue that.
 
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Robs tone. IN my humble opinion.

I really disagree. If anything, steel saddles take away lows and mids, and so do bone nuts to a lesser extent. Graphtec saddles are very balanced.

They're definitely better than the stock alloy saddles you find on some guitars.

If you want a "vintage correct" guitar, you'll probably want to stay away from Graphtec stuff. If you just want a great sounding and playing guitar and don't care what the cork-sniffers think, go for it.
 
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What are the differences between the Classic String Savers and the Original? I can't tell based on the description on the website. Which do you guys prefer? What about Tusq saddles?
 
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My luthier said that the new American standards sound good if not better than vintage strats. (example)

Its all to the ear.

Not discrediting RD... far from it. Someones buttery tone is another mans shrill.

I'd like to think RD knows good tone. So he has sparked my interest some.

No argument there. The new American Standards are easily the best guitars Fender has put out in 30 years. The lighter body finish, big trem blocks, and stock pickups that actually sound really good are the key factors there IMO. And I do think the stamped steel saddles are a lot better than the previous generation's mystery meat saddles.

If I bought a new AS, I'd probably leave the saddles as is unless I found the guitar to be overly bright, or I was having string breakage issues.
 
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Well mines 2006... But I wish I had a 2008.

Mine is a '92. Not sure what type of metal it is. It doesn't sound horrible, but other strats that I play always seem to sound a bit better than mine. I figure maybe new saddles would give a slight change in tone for the better as well as help with tuning stability which is very important to me.
 
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I've got some cool Graphtec saddles on my parts strat, they're stainless steel with inserts, so they don't break up the look too much. I love 'em.

 
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Mine is a '92. Not sure what type of metal it is. It doesn't sound horrible, but other strats that I play always seem to sound a bit better than mine. I figure maybe new saddles would give a slight change in tone for the better as well as help with tuning stability which is very important to me.

They probably won't help with tuning stability, but they certainly won't make it worse.
 
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One thing I noticed when I installed Graph Tech saddles is that the action felt a little less restricted. It's as though the stock saddles were robbing the strings of some of their flex, especially during bends.

I like 'em a lot.
 
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Absolutey love em, can't ya tell? I don't break strings, and my palm doesn't get ripped up by those stupid bent steel saddles. If it does, it is for the better. Every guitar I have has em.
 
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Hey Mincer, what kind of Graph Tech saddles do you use and/or prefer?


I like the String Saver Originals for my Strat-style guitars...there are a few different ones depending on the string width of your guitar- I think they have a guide at their website to select the right ones. I really do like the way they sound and feel, though.
 
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Robs tone. IN my humble opinion.

As usual genius your dead right....and they also robbed sustain on my Strat. Consequently I've never tried them again on any other of my guitars.
If you play with heaps of gain then it doesnt matter, you won't hear any difference, in fact most people probably won't hear any difference either way, but if you play clean and your a critical listener....No!
They're about helping tuning issues and having a smooth surface for strings to work on. ( good cure for string breakage. )
But there is a price to pay !
If tone and sustain are your first and most important priorities...No !
 
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