Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
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eschoendorff
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Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
Right. Well, you're obviously an expert on the matter...
On second though, I'd be willing to bet money that if you hadn't read that Dave used a Line 6 amp on United Abominations, you'd have never figured it out.
You obviously have something against Mustaine, which is understandable, seeing as how he stole your song ideas and has more hit records than than you. Oh wait...
Well, most I can give you is to say that dubious quality of guitar sound on UA smells like L6. That's my best offer
Right. Well, you're obviously an expert on the matter...
On second though, I'd be willing to bet money that if you hadn't read that Dave used a Line 6 amp on United Abominations, you'd have never figured it out.
You obviously have something against Mustaine, which is understandable, seeing as how he stole your song ideas and has more hit records than than you. Oh wait...
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
You don't want the Vox Tonelab ST then. That has the weakest FX out of all them. Best sounding amps, but very limited FX capability:
You don't want the Vox Tonelab ST then. That has the weakest FX out of all them. Best sounding amps, but very limited FX capability:
The Dali
MeltedClockologist
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
Hmmm... ok, I'll do some more digging. A question... the POD and the V AMP... are those simply processors that sit up on a table instead of on the floor like the others? That seems like it would be easier to tweak than having to fidding on the ground all the time...
Hmmm... ok, I'll do some more digging. A question... the POD and the V AMP... are those simply processors that sit up on a table instead of on the floor like the others? That seems like it would be easier to tweak than having to fidding on the ground all the time...
Stratman
Guitaris Maximus
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
Get a good guitar, good amp, and some great single use pedals (Seymour has them) and you should be all set.
I have and have used multi-use / multi-purpose pedals before to save on cost of shipping equipment to gigs. But, have gone back to the tried and proven guitar-amp combination, with a few single-purpose pedals.
nuff said!
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Eating my own words…
Purchased an Eleven Rack and a GPC - now play through the PA - So much simpler gig to gig, no heavy gear to lug around.
Get a good guitar, good amp, and some great single use pedals (Seymour has them) and you should be all set.
I have and have used multi-use / multi-purpose pedals before to save on cost of shipping equipment to gigs. But, have gone back to the tried and proven guitar-amp combination, with a few single-purpose pedals.
nuff said!
——
Eating my own words…
Purchased an Eleven Rack and a GPC - now play through the PA - So much simpler gig to gig, no heavy gear to lug around.
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dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
Both of those units are going to be limited for FX as well, they're more amp sims. For Line 6, you'd want the M9 or M13, both are pretty pricey...
Here's what I'd use as a pedalboard replacement:
Typically under $200 used. It's not too big either, so you can use it on your desktop, but it has an expression pedal too which is handy.
Both of those units are going to be limited for FX as well, they're more amp sims. For Line 6, you'd want the M9 or M13, both are pretty pricey...
Here's what I'd use as a pedalboard replacement:
Typically under $200 used. It's not too big either, so you can use it on your desktop, but it has an expression pedal too which is handy.
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nalo1022
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Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
There is something for everybody in this thread, which just goes to show that the gear depends on the situation. When I played live I used a Bassman 70 head with a dirt pedal in front of it and was happy. I also have a Vox Tonelab (original desktop model) for playing around at home with headphones, and also recording direct into the computer. I'm not playing in a band right now and the Bassman was taking up space so I traded it for a guitar. The Tonelab sounds great, and I f I start another band I will probably get a neutral sounding tube poweramp run into a cab made for keyboards or something. I did this before, and it turned out great. There are plenty of times when this rig isn't perfect, but right now it suits me. At 2am I can plug in my headphones and get a nice AC/DC tone with out waking everyone up. At the same time I'm also working on a 18watt clone becasue a cranked tube amp is heaven. Dali just needs to weigh out the pros and cons and settle on the best compromise. If amp sims and effects are whats needed I recommended the Tonelab (SE). If its jsuts effects something liek the M13 may be what is needed. What kind of effects are you looking for? i personally have never been pleased by emulated distortion pedals, but you seem to just require a boost so that may not be a big deal. There are a lot of factors that need to be thought of before make a giant toone altering decision. So do to a local GC (etc) with your amp and guitar and try everything out until something clicks.
There is something for everybody in this thread, which just goes to show that the gear depends on the situation. When I played live I used a Bassman 70 head with a dirt pedal in front of it and was happy. I also have a Vox Tonelab (original desktop model) for playing around at home with headphones, and also recording direct into the computer. I'm not playing in a band right now and the Bassman was taking up space so I traded it for a guitar. The Tonelab sounds great, and I f I start another band I will probably get a neutral sounding tube poweramp run into a cab made for keyboards or something. I did this before, and it turned out great. There are plenty of times when this rig isn't perfect, but right now it suits me. At 2am I can plug in my headphones and get a nice AC/DC tone with out waking everyone up. At the same time I'm also working on a 18watt clone becasue a cranked tube amp is heaven. Dali just needs to weigh out the pros and cons and settle on the best compromise. If amp sims and effects are whats needed I recommended the Tonelab (SE). If its jsuts effects something liek the M13 may be what is needed. What kind of effects are you looking for? i personally have never been pleased by emulated distortion pedals, but you seem to just require a boost so that may not be a big deal. There are a lot of factors that need to be thought of before make a giant toone altering decision. So do to a local GC (etc) with your amp and guitar and try everything out until something clicks.
cronnin
New member
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
I've always thought there is something strange with the UA sound.
Just thought that Mustaine stopped recording tracks and left it for the other guitarist to decide.
I like his Skn O'My Teeth sound.
Yep, I always suspected that little witchy bastard Dave somehow astrally projected into my dreams to steal my genius musical ideas.
Now I have a mindwitness
On second though, I'd be willing to bet money that if you hadn't read that Dave used a Line 6 amp on United Abominations, you'd have never figured it out.
You obviously have something against Mustaine, which is understandable, seeing as how he stole your song ideas and has more hit records than than you. Oh wait...
I've always thought there is something strange with the UA sound.
Just thought that Mustaine stopped recording tracks and left it for the other guitarist to decide.
I like his Skn O'My Teeth sound.
Yep, I always suspected that little witchy bastard Dave somehow astrally projected into my dreams to steal my genius musical ideas.
Now I have a mindwitness
jcthejester13
member
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
Money and finances aside.
Since when has anybody ever said "Oh, thank God I got rid of my pedalboard and switched to this Multi-fx processor. It sounds way better than my old stompboxes"?
If you are looking for optimal tone, what are you going to buy?
Money and finances aside.
Since when has anybody ever said "Oh, thank God I got rid of my pedalboard and switched to this Multi-fx processor. It sounds way better than my old stompboxes"?
If you are looking for optimal tone, what are you going to buy?
misterwhizzy
Well-known member
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
You CAN'T say this, though. Most of us (Geoff, Adam, and Matt off the top of my head excluded) are not making enough money from gigs to just pick what we want.
After you threw out the most important qualification, none of this matters. All that being said, I agree with you. I've got single effect pedals, but budget is a huge factor.
You CAN'T say this, though. Most of us (Geoff, Adam, and Matt off the top of my head excluded) are not making enough money from gigs to just pick what we want.
After you threw out the most important qualification, none of this matters. All that being said, I agree with you. I've got single effect pedals, but budget is a huge factor.
jcthejester13
member
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
With budget as a factor, I totally agree. They are a pretty decent little investment for smaller and/or traveling guitarists.
With budget as a factor, I totally agree. They are a pretty decent little investment for smaller and/or traveling guitarists.
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
I guess you missed the thread in the marketplace where I sold off about 30 pedals.
I guess you missed the thread in the marketplace where I sold off about 30 pedals.
krankguitarist
Krankitupologist
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
Here's the question though:
Especially when it comes to Modulation FX, "moldeling" multis can get pretty damned close to the original. Even then, if the original sounds slightly different than the modeled version that does not automatically mean that the original sounds "better". It just means that it sounds different.
Take the M13 for example. Say I want a phaser, so I pull up the Phase 90 model. I couldn't really give a rats ass if it sounds exactly like a phase 90...all I want is a nice-sounding phaser. And the M13 delivers that for me.
Would the extra difference provided from the real phase 90 be worth it to me to lug around a large pedalboard filled with all other kinds of FX, spend all that extra money, and put all that extra time in setting it up? Especially considering that what I'm looking for is not the phase 90, but instead a nice sounding phaser?
"optimal tone" is entirely subjective. My optimal tone is one that allows me to spend more time playing, and less time chasing.
Here's the question though:
Especially when it comes to Modulation FX, "moldeling" multis can get pretty damned close to the original. Even then, if the original sounds slightly different than the modeled version that does not automatically mean that the original sounds "better". It just means that it sounds different.
Take the M13 for example. Say I want a phaser, so I pull up the Phase 90 model. I couldn't really give a rats ass if it sounds exactly like a phase 90...all I want is a nice-sounding phaser. And the M13 delivers that for me.
Would the extra difference provided from the real phase 90 be worth it to me to lug around a large pedalboard filled with all other kinds of FX, spend all that extra money, and put all that extra time in setting it up? Especially considering that what I'm looking for is not the phase 90, but instead a nice sounding phaser?
"optimal tone" is entirely subjective. My optimal tone is one that allows me to spend more time playing, and less time chasing.
jcthejester13
member
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
Well of course a pedalboard is going to sound terrible when you shine that sort of light on it. But hey, if multi-fx are what get you off, then stick with 'em. I don't care, it's not my funeral.
Well of course a pedalboard is going to sound terrible when you shine that sort of light on it. But hey, if multi-fx are what get you off, then stick with 'em. I don't care, it's not my funeral.
jcthejester13
member
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
I am not saying they are terrible. Everything has it's place. What I am saying is, if I am a professional artist using top-line gear, I am going to be using stompboxes on a pedalboard.
I am not saying they are terrible. Everything has it's place. What I am saying is, if I am a professional artist using top-line gear, I am going to be using stompboxes on a pedalboard.
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
cronnin
New member
Re: Talk to me about Multi-fx pedals...
Like a real pro?
This guy must have THE sound
Like a real pro?
This guy must have THE sound
