Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

[JOLLY]

I did a search and found a few threads, but they were all about a year old or so. Who has experience with these? Who owns one? Any downfalls? What's the deal skippy?

I really wanting to put a band together soon. I don't know if I wanna do my own stuff or covers or what. As you all know I'm a diehard Line6 fan. I love my AX2/212's with their quality and effects and all. Hell, I could play anywhere with those things and be just fine and I actually have. The thing is, I now own a 5150 half stack and I recently purchased a Marshall JVM 410h head. I figured wtf man, I'll step up and be like yall big boys with tube amps....ya know? Anyways....I gotta have effects. It's just a part of my sound, tone, whatever you wanna call it. The staple to my sound has always been quite a bit of chorus on my cleans as well as different types of delay. I really love a good ping pong (or whatever it's called) delay on my cleans. When it comes to my rhythms I like just a hint of stereo chorus (almost where you really can't even hear it...just enough to thicken it a bit) and a tad of stereo delay. My leads I like the same tad of chorus and quite a bit of delay. I like to throw in the occasional phase all jacked up on some clean sounds as well as a tad of it on leads...ala Eddie Van Halen. I could care less about any type of reverb the unit might have. Reverb just isn't my thing man, as I prefer delay. I really like chorus and delay. I enjoy a good phase here and there as well. Tremelo is always a cool thing for me to play around with when I'm writing some weird bluesey stuff, so that's cool as well.

I've done a tad of research on the unit, but research isn't nothing compared to people that have experience with things. This is why I ask. I'll be using it with my Marshall JVM head. Now mind you, I'm no MIDI expert or any of that crap, but I think If I could figure out a couple of things then I'd really sound great. First annd foremost I will be buying another 4x12....that's a given. But enough about that...my a.d.d. is starting to kick in. The Marshall JVM is MIDI compatible. I don't know if you've read about it, but it has 4 different channels with 3 different modes of each channel. I can program it's footpedal/floorboard or whatever ya call those things into all kinds of configurations. Anyways I'm rambling.

So if I take a TC Electronic G Major and run it into my JVM and not use it's foot pedal thingy but I use a Behringer FCB1010 (I looked at that cause I've seen Mincer talk about it often and give it praise, and I also value his opinion man) will it allow me to change channels on my amp, change chorus, and delay, and all that stuff? Hopefully that made sense. I'm just an old Joe Perry school of plug in and play man. I don't know these things.

Anyways once again. Help a brother out please. What's your opinion on these units and how can I make it work for me in the a.d.d. way I only know how to explain it. I sure would appreciate it.

I figure $400 for a good effects unit isn't bad at all. I hear it's great, but this is why I ask yall's opinion on this. Is it really good? I think the Behringer floorboard is like $150 or so. Although that's a bit of dosh for the two combined, it really sounds like a good way to have a Bradshaw whitetrash unit. Am I making sense about trying to do what I think is do-able per se, or am I in the spirit world over here man?

Thank you all. I hope my mind stayed on track and you were able to follow all of that. I look foward to your answers.

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

I loved mine while I had it - I just don't play with effects when doing gigs, so I made some money off of it.

It'll change channels flawlessly if your amp is Midi capable.

The delays, verbs, and choruses in it are really, really lush - I loved em all!

The comp is ok - cool for cleans, not so much for gain, was passable.

Excellent noise gate, other whacky modulation crap, etc.


Mine paired up flawlessly with the FCB1010, only took a tiny bit of tweaking to get the expression pedals to control volume and another parameter (simulate a whammy pedal, tremolo dive bomb, control delay rate/volume, chorus mix, etc), and to set one of the buttons as a global 'tap tempo' button.

Basically, you'll set up a series of presets... say one for cleans, one for clean with some chorus/delay/etc on it, one for crunch, one for crunch with a bit of phase, one for a heavy, dry rythm tone, one with a bit more volume and somephase + delay for leads, etc, etc, etc. You'll be able to assign a channel on the amp and whatever effects you want to the presets, and call them up at your whim!

 

[jmh151]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

Alot of people on the Carvin board like to use it with their V3- they swear by it, I want to get one myself. For a footpedal, they swear the footpedal for the Fender cyber amps is the best since it requires absolutely no programming.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

Yeah, it's called midi mapping. Once the head is connected to the G Major and footcontroller, you assign all units to 0-1-2-3-4-5 etc Basically channels that correspond to what's stored on the G Major.

It's a bit confusing and takes some time to set it up, but once it's mapped, you can show up with your halfstack, a 2 spc rack with the G Major and power conditioner, then run a cable out to your Behringer midi pedal. It's about as simple as a pedalboard rig once you put it together.

You'll need the G Major, a few 3 ft midi cables, a 20 ft midi cable, and a footcontroller.

If you like Line 6 products, you could get the rackmounted Delay and Modulation units.
Also, Yamaha makes some great rack gear, and it depreciates quite a bit, so there's good bargains on used Yamaha FX.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

Thanks Jeff, I somewhat understood that. Joe, you totally lost me with all that mapping stufff man.

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

It's not as complicated as Joe made it out to be.

In each preset, theres a setting to send a midi signal to an external device - you'd use this to send a signal to your head, telling it to change channels.

 

[B2D]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

Like I said on the phone, I had one with my Mesa and tried to use an FCB1010 with it, but I mustve been doing it wrong because I couldn't get the floorboard to play nice with the Gmajor, though. But that setup will do what you're describing just fine.

FWIW I'm GASing bad for a TC G-System. three times more expensive but it include the floorboard, you can rackmount the brains, and it's easy as hell to program. Tried one hooked up to a 2-channel Marshall and found it to be everything I was looking for in an effects rig.

 

[Travis]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

I talked to a ton of guys who own 5150's when I was trying to set mine up for a killer sound. They all said that the 5150 does not like multi-effects precoessors at all, with one big exception: the G-Major. I've been told that except for the G-Major, the 5150 responds better to pedals. However, I have no real world experience to back that up.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

FWIW I'm GASing bad for a TC G-System. three times more expensive but it include the floorboard, you can rackmount the brains, and it's easy as hell to program. Tried one hooked up to a 2-channel Marshall and found it to be everything I was looking for in an effects rig.

I'd love to have one of those, but that's some big bucks man.

 

[Binnerscot]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

Jolly - you would be styling with a G-Major and any decent MIDI controller. I use the GMaj with a Rocktron MidiMate, an Amp Gizmo and a Road King. Works pretty slick.

MIDI works like this:
I am guessing the JVM would use midi channel 1
Set G-Major to receive on midi channel 2
Set a button on the controller to send message "A" on channel 1 and message "B" on channel 2 - that will tell the amp to go to the clean channel and the GMaj to call up the chorus patch at the same time. That is it in a nutshell, the numbers etc are just an example, I am sure you can find out the midi info for the JVM from Marshall.

I am also quite sure that you could just use the Marshall foot controller, plug the amp midi out to the GMaj midi in, and switching channels will also switch the GMaj from patch 1 through 4.

 

[B2D]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

I'd love to have one of those, but that's some big bucks man.

Yeah, but the pedalboard already comes in the package, you can loop your favorite effects pedals into the unit and access them remotely, no MIDI mapping for pedalboard-to-effects unit communication... it's just more my style but yeah it is pretty expensive. I think you can find 'em online for about $1000 in good condish.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

Jolly - you would be styling with a G-Major and any decent MIDI controller. I use the GMaj with a Rocktron MidiMate, an Amp Gizmo and a Road King. Works pretty slick.

MIDI works like this:
I am guessing the JVM would use midi channel 1
Set G-Major to receive on midi channel 2
Set a button on the controller to send message "A" on channel 1 and message "B" on channel 2 - that will tell the amp to go to the clean channel and the GMaj to call up the chorus patch at the same time. That is it in a nutshell, the numbers etc are just an example, I am sure you can find out the midi info for the JVM from Marshall.

I am also quite sure that you could just use the Marshall foot controller, plug the amp midi out to the GMaj midi in, and switching channels will also switch the GMaj from patch 1 through 4.

Binnerscot, that's like Chinese arithmetic to me man, but anyways, here's what the manual says. Hopefully this makes sense? Oh yeah, and thank you!!

MIDI operation
Pressing the FOOTSWITCH / MIDI PROGRAM
switch twice puts the amplifier in MIDI waiting
mode, the LED will flash until a valid MIDI
program change command is received.
On reception of a MIDI program change
command the amplifier stores the current status
(Channel + FX + Reverb + Master Settings) in
the MIDI program number received. It is
possible to store up to 128 different MIDI
presets.
To exit this status without waiting for incoming
MIDI data press the FOOTSWITCH / MIDI
PROGRAM switch again.
Note about MIDI channels: By default the
amplifier is configured to listen to MIDI channel
#1 but it can be changed to listen to any of the
16 MIDI channels as follows:
Switch the amplifier off (Power switch, not
Standby).
Press and hold the FOOTSWITCH / MIDI
PROGRAM switch.
Switch the amplifier on (Power switch).
Release the FOOTSWITCH / MIDI PROGRAM
switch, the LED will start to flash.
Send ANY MIDI command using your MIDI
pedalboard or any other MIDI equipment.
The amplifier will detect which channel came in
and configure itself to listen to that MIDI channel
only. From now on any MIDI preset you had
previously stored will be activated only on the
new channel regardless of what channel you
used before, this allows a fast reconfiguration
should there be a MIDI conflict with any other
outboard equipment.
If you want to exit the MIDI channel selection
without any action press the
FOOTSWITCH / MIDI PROGRAM switch while​

waiting for MIDI data.


:eyecrazy:

 

[Binnerscot]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

Yup, it will do anything you may need.....I might have to drive to your house to help you out with it...LOL.

First, what do you want to be in charge of the rig (the brains of it)? It could be the controller, or it could be the amp itself. Once you have that figured out...we can move on to configurin'

The controller may be the way to go, it usually is more flexible that way.

 

[kjrocks]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

I've read nothing but good thing about them . I've been contemplating one for quite a while. I just dont really need it now, not playing much these days.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

First, what do you want to be in charge of the rig (the brains of it)? It could be the controller, or it could be the amp itself. Once you have that figured out...we can move on to configurin'

The controller may be the way to go, it usually is more flexible that way.

I just wanna rock man. You've totally lost me once again bro. I just wanna plug in, have some effects and rock. Like I think I stated originally. I'm from the Joe Perry school of rock. Let's just plug up and jam man. However, I do like my effects. I just don't know anything about that stuff. I hate to come across as a real moron about this, but I am. I'm lost bro. This is like rocket science to me. You have no idea though how much I appreciate your help and you trying to teach me this. I really really do appreciate it. You have no idea man. Thank you.

 

[Binnerscot]

Re: Talk To Me About The TC Electronic G Major..I Got Some Things On My Mind Man

LOL...its not as complex as it sounds. Simply put, you push one button and it switches the channel, options (like FX loop, reverb, etc.) on or off, and the GMaj patch. If you set one patch up, you would see it clearly. MIDI isn't as cryptic as it seems.

I hit one button and it turns on loop 1, switches to channel 4, turns on the boost, and switches the GMaj to a delay...its good fun.

Now keyboards....that crap is F'ed up to figure out!