Tele Pickup Wiring Help

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djilaani

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I'm about to purchase a Feder Vintera II 60s Telecaster.

Beyond changing the stock bridge to a modern six saddled one, and factory tuners to Gotohs, the main challenge lies in installing a JB Jr. in the bridge and a Lace Sensor Blue in the neck position.

I have absolutely no knowledge about pickup wiring, and there is only one guitar tech where I live. He is skilled in many regards, but the guy needs serious guidance to pull off a proper wiring, as it's not his full-time job. Once he wired the pickups in a way which resulted in phasing issues.

Could someone please provide instructions and/or scehmatics how to wire the pickups in parallel? From what I understand, putting the Lace into equation complicates thinge quite a bit, but this is the configuration upon which I've settled on.

Thank you in advance, to anyone who is willing to help. <3
 
welcome to the forum!

ive not wired a lace with a duncan before, but im sure it can be done. hopefully someone will chime in shortly with your answer.

it is easy to get phase issues, but also usually easy to fix by flipping the hot and ground wires on one of the pups
 
Lace Sensors match standard Fenders with regards to polarity and phase. That's all I can help with at this exact moment
 
Which means a standard SD will be out of phase with the Lace. So swap the green and black on the SD.
 
Havent had Lace sensors in 15yrs.
All I remember is they have more wires than the normal 2 on a single coil.
 
Hey guys,

Thanks a lot to everyone!

Yeah, the multiple wires on the Laces are what is mainly confusing me.

I had previously a Squier CV 60s Mustang, and the tech was persuading me how it's impossible to put a humbucker in a single coil guitar. So, even with the provided schematics, he wired the Hot Rails and the stock neck pickup in series instead of parallel, which resulted in an atrocious combined tone, and he didn't know how to fix it...

He's a decent dude, and is a really good luthier, but needs firm guidance when it comes to pickup wiring.

If anyone happens to stumble upon a permanent solution, loads of thanks in advance.

<3
 
As far as I can tell, you would do the Lace neck just like it is in their Tele diagram, then for the Duncan in the bridge, solder red/white together and tape over that connection with electrical tape or shrinkwrap, then solder green to the remaining hot lug on the switch and black to ground. This should put the JB jr in phase with any Fender or Lace pickup, but also have both pickups in parallel to each other when combined.

 
beaubrummels said:
As far as I can tell, you would do the Lace neck just like it is in their Tele diagram, then for the Duncan in the bridge, solder red/white together and tape over that connection with electrical tape or shrinkwrap, then solder green to the remaining hot lug on the switch and black to ground. This should put the JB jr in phase with any Fender or Lace pickup, but also have both pickups in parallel to each other when combined.

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Hey man, thanks a bunch!

I've had some major financial setbacks lately, so I still haven't ordered the pickups, but I want to be absolutely sure about the wiring, so that when I take the guitar to the tech, that it's completely idiot-proof.

<3
 
If someone could provide an idiot-proof diagram of how to successfully wire a Lace Sensor Blue and a JB Jr. in parallel, I would be enormously grateful.
 
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Hey Folks,

Could someone please guide me if this is the correct parallel wiring for my setup?

Mind you, I want the full humbucker sound of the JB Jr.

Seymour Duncan JB Jr. (Bridge) - Standard Series Humbucking Black: Hot (connect to 3-way switch) Red & White: Solder together and tape off (insulate) Green & Bare: Ground (solder to back of volume pot)

Lace Sensor Blue (Neck) - Standard Operation White (or Orange): Hot (connect to 3-way switch) Green (or White): Ground (solder to back of volume pot) If the Lace Sensor is a 3-wire model, connect the Green and White together for ground.

From what I understood so far, If the middle position sounds thin or weak, the pickups are out of phase. In that case, the fix is usually to reverse the Lace Sensor Blue’s hot and ground leads relative to the switch/pot wiring.

Is this absolutely idiot-proof?

Thanks!
 
Switching the hot & ground on either (not both) pickup will work, but bare is always ground. Lace pickups, like Fender, are out-of-phase with current modern SDs.
 
We need to clarify a couple points here. When two pickups are out-of-phase, you only need to reverse the polarity of one of them. It doesn't matter which one because a pickup has no "absolute" polarity the way a speaker does. In my diagram, (modified LACE diagram), I reversed the JB Jr because I'm familiar with that pup.

The diagram I posted does exactly what you want.

If, for some reason, you must reverse the Lace Blue, than you'll also need to reverse the JB Jr back to normal. On the JB, reverse black & green on my diagram. Green to ground, black to the switch.

The Lace is a little more complicated. The three wires imply that you have the two coil wires and chassis/cover ground. It's important that the chassis wire always goes to ground. Ideally, you'd measure it with a meter, on ohms, to see which wire shorts to the cover. Or just email Lace and ask them.

I'm going to assume, from this Lace PDF, that the orange and white wires are the coil.

Lace phase and split.

With that said, if you must reverse the Lace Blue, then on that diagram, take the lace green and orange to ground, and white to the switch.
On the JB Jr, take black to the switch, green and bare to ground. Leave red & white as shown.
 
Artie said:
We need to clarify a couple points here. When two pickups are out-of-phase, you only need to reverse the polarity of one of them. It doesn't matter which one because a pickup has no "absolute" polarity the way a speaker does. In my diagram, (modified LACE diagram), I reversed the JB Jr because I'm familiar with that pup.

The diagram I posted does exactly what you want.

If, for some reason, you must reverse the Lace Blue, than you'll also need to reverse the JB Jr back to normal. On the JB, reverse black & green on my diagram. Green to ground, black to the switch.

The Lace is a little more complicated. The three wires imply that you have the two coil wires and chassis/cover ground. It's important that the chassis wire always goes to ground. Ideally, you'd measure it with a meter, on ohms, to see which wire shorts to the cover. Or just email Lace and ask them.

I'm going to assume, from this Lace PDF, that the orange and white wires are the coil.

Lace phase and split.

With that said, if you must reverse the Lace Blue, then on that diagram, take the lace green and orange to ground, and white to the switch.
On the JB Jr, take black to the switch, green and bare to ground. Leave red & white as shown.
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My man, I sincerely appreciate your time and willingness to help!

I learned a lot from your response. Thank you!

Just one more inquiry - reversing the polarity on the JB Jr. as per your schematics doesn't affect the power or the fullness of its sound when it is engaged on its own?

Once more, loads od thanks!
 
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