telecaster 5way switch wiring

[silencer]

i heve seen 5wat tele wiring info at : http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/techtips.shtml(The "Joe Wilson" wiring for Telecaster)



in wiring diagram they use a 5way 4 pole yamaha switch.
i could not find any yamaha switch but i found a
5 way 4 pole switch like that:
http://guitarelectronics.zoovy.com/product/SWL54F


can any one explain me how can i do this mod with this switch.It has different legs than the yamaha one.

 

[Artie]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

Hey silencer; Welcome to the forum.

I'm pretty sure that those are the same type switch. Let me look it over a bit closer, and do some research today, and I'll get back to you soon.
(With diagram in hand, if necessary.)

Artie

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

Artie, do you have diagram for the Yamaha 4 position switch so I could do the Jerry Donahue wiring on my James Burton Tele?

I think it goes neck, neck & bridge parallel, neck & bridge in series, bridge.

I'd like to move the Custom Shop pickups currently in it to my Nocaster and then re-install the JD bridge and APS-2 neck my James Burton Tele.

I have a couple of the 4 position Yamaha switches in stock but they did not come with a wiring diagram.

Thanks!

 

[Fresh_Start]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

The Yamaha switch has the common terminals in the middle of each wafer, while the "Oak" or whatever GuitarElectronics is selling has the common terminals on the outside ends.

Funny, I hadn't seen that Joe Wilson wiring before - it's really simple and very cool.

There's a diagram over on Deaf Eddie's site that doesn't use a tapped bridge pickup or a push/pull pot - one switch position just does both pups in series but out-of-phase. IME parallel out-of-phase isn't really useful, buy YMMV. Hey, he's even cleaned up the drawing and made it more user friendly: http://deaf-eddie.net/guitars/5-tone.html

Disclaimer: I haven't actually wired this circuit, but I have done a lot with the 4-pole/5-way "superswitch" and this one looks right.

After thinking about it for a minute, I'd rather use Deaf Eddie's circuit and have a push/pull pot control whether the bridge pickup is on full or tapped. That would be great IMHO.

Chip

 

[Kent S.]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

Bear in mind that *series* out of phase is a bit warmer and more output than it's parallel sister; I guess a rough comparison would be to say that it's output is roughly equal to parallel in phase. Definitley not a mainstay type tone however.

 

[Kent S.]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

Artie, do you have diagram for the Yamaha 4 position switch so I could do the Jerry Donahue wiring on my James Burton Tele?

I think it goes neck, neck & bridge parallel, neck & bridge in series, bridge.

I'd like to move the Custom Shop pickups currently in it to my Nocaster and then re-install the JD bridge and APS-2 neck my James Burton Tele.

I have a couple of the 4 position Yamaha switches in stock but they did not come with a wiring diagram.

Thanks!

I thought the JD wiring wasn't publicly released? Maybe I'm thinking of something else ... Lew are you referring to the fender 4 position tele style, and it's associated wiring? If you just want that as a guide I know I have it ... check your e-mail.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

I thought the JD wiring wasn't publicly released? Maybe I'm thinking of something else ... Lew are you referring to the fender 4 position tele style, and it's associated wiring? If you just want that as a guide I know I have it ... check your e-mail.

Thanks Kent! Yes, the standard wiring diagram for a Jerry Donahue Tele. I'd love to try it. I'll look for your email. Lew

 

[Artie]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

Artie, do you have diagram for the Yamaha 4 position switch so I could do the Jerry Donahue wiring on my James Burton Tele?

Thanks!

Unfortunately, I don't. I was just going to do some "Google-ing" 'til I found the info.

If what Chip is saying is true, (and I'm sure it is), it shouldn't be too hard.

I'll try to have this up before the days over.

 

[Kent S.]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

Thanks Kent! Yes, the standard wiring diagram for a Jerry Donahue Tele. I'd love to try it. I'll look for your email. Lew

Whoa! Don't get excited yet, the JD I don't have, like I said, if that's the one I'm thinking of it wasn't released to the public. Unless I'm thinking of something else ... but what you said about the bridge, neck, and then a parallel as well as a series configuration of the neck and bridge ... yeah that's ones on it's way, two versions, use the second as it's an improvement over the first (that's explained) ...the order is bridge, bridge and neck in parallel, neck, and bridge and neck in series ... but that's easy enough to change around to get whatever order you want it to be.

 

[silencer]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

thnx for answers.

ArtieToo im waiting

 

[silencer]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

i have texas special tele pickups.
I also realize my neck pickup has 3 cables instead of 2 :smack: , whats the 3 cable for?
where should i plug it in the diagram?

 

[Fresh_Start]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

OK, here's yet another version of the same basic thing http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/triffic/index.php, except this shows both the Yamaha and Oak type switches Using different tone caps for the different selector switch positions is pretty cool.

You can also pick up all kinds of other good info on the GuitarNuts site, especially on shielding.

I know I've seen the Jerry Donahue wiring - it's a lot like what I just linked to except that he had resistors in series with caps between the two pickups in a couple of positions IIRC. Sure wish I could find the darn thing...

Hope this helps,

Chip

 

[Kent S.]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

OK, here's yet another version of the same basic thing http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/triffic/index.php, except this shows both the Yamaha and Oak type switches Using different tone caps for the different selector switch positions is pretty cool.

You can also pick up all kinds of other good info on the GuitarNuts site, especially on shielding.

I know I've seen the Jerry Donahue wiring - it's a lot like what I just linked to except that he had resistors in series with caps between the two pickups in a couple of positions IIRC. Sure wish I could find the darn thing...

Hope this helps,

Chip

Hey Chip, from what You remember did it use two poles or four? I knew the RC had to be in parallel or in series, cutting back on the out of phase mixing of the lows and some mids I would assume,from the written explanation on the site.

 

[silencer]

Re: telecaster 5way switch wiring

i did the connection at http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/triffic/index.phphttp://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/triffic/index.php

at teh site they said cut the jumper beetween ground cable and the cover of the neck pickup and add a new cable there.my texas special pickups has theree cable ,they already have this mod.


all 5 tones work (and position 2 and 5 is very similiar)but there is a problem,
when touch the control plate which is connected to the ground , a very annoying hum sound appears.normally when u touch the grounding metal hardware hum sound decreases.i check the connection lot of times , even i tried the change the - and + cables position but problem didnt solved.i realize that the neck magnet do this hum sound, bridge is doing too but very low.i connect the bridge plate to the ground too, now bridge is doing same action too :blackeye: :blackeye: :yell:

how can i get rid off this ground hum?? :smack:

i heard that texaspecial pickups are reverse wound, this can be the problem?