Tell me about the Fender Mustang...?

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So, I put some cash down on a 1999-2000 Fender Mustang. Finish is red with a white/cream racing stripe, jag/jazzmaster switching system, tone/volume, pearloid pickguard, and rosewood fretboard.

Tell me about 'em? who uses them, explain the switching system, any good links to history/pics, or just personal experience! Thanks for the look, help, info!
 
Re: Tell me about the Fender Mustang...?

...If you want the security of a Poplar rather than Basswood body (which IMO is pure superstition), then only a newer 65 Reissue has that (one of the ones with no contours). But IMO, the earlier 69 reissue, as you have the downpayment on, is a **** fine axe :) And you got it in one of the best color schemes :D

The switching system, however, is NOT the same as a Jaguar's (and a Jazzmaster has a completely different system anyway). UNLESS you accidentally bought a Cyclone II and not a Mustang (which is still not quite a Jag's switching...)

Because CIJ Mustangs with the racing stripe are fairly scarce, I slightly suspect you may have bought a Cyclone. The easiest way to tell is that if your guitar has a Strat bridge, it's a Cyclone. Which is ok, but you wanted a Mustang ;) Please post a pic so we can be sure. Also, if you have 3 pickups, it's a cyclone.

ANYWAY. On to Mustangs.

I like to think of the Mustang as being between a Gibson and a Strat: shorter scale, strat electronics. Because of the slightly mellower sound from the shorter scale, you won't get the icepicky highs people complain about with Strat bridge pickups, and you'll get a heavier sound than a typical strat in any position.

The trem is one of my favorite things about the Mustang, because they stay in tune nicely and if set up properly have enough range to slack the strings and come back in tune. They're also really, really smooth and easy in terms of action, very sensitive to moving the arm.

Switching is accomplished this way:

-if a switch is in the middle, it's corresponding pickup is off.
-if it is to the right or left, it is on.
-if both switches are facing opposite directions, then the pickups are out of phase.

You get used to this fairly quickly and can eventually make quick changes with a pinching motion of the fingers between the two switches.

IMO the Mustang is my second favorite Fender, I like the trem and the nice, heavy tones you can get from them, but overall I like the chime, sparkle, and hollowish tones from a Jag better.

If your Mustang doesn't look like this, be careful, it might not be a Mustang :D (this is mine, on the right). A bunch of mostly original 66 parts that I rebuilt, has Duncan APS's.

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HISTORY:

...As for history, uhh... Kurt Cobain used them? So does Shakira? They're big in Japan?

The Mustang was an outgrowth of the Duo Sonic/Musicmaster line introduced in 1957, in 64 or so they revamped that line with optional 24" scale necks (as opposed to 22.25, which are also found on some Mustangs, but eventually discontinued), with offset bodies, different switching and pickup placement, different bridges etc. The Mustang is a "deluxe" Duo Sonic, with one of the best trems Fender ever made, rather than the Tele style 3 saddle bridge. They were initially slab bodies, but recieved contours in... 67/8 or so? Duos and MMs never got contours. But most people find the Mustang body thin enough to not really need them anyway. They were the last guitar introduced during pre-CBS Fender, and the last of the "weird" Fenders to get discontinued (in 1980 or so). Also, they were the first to be reissued (in 1984) by Fender Japan.

The comp. stripe ones, like you have, were initially produced between 69 and 72, in orange/red, red/white, and blue/light blue. The first few have matching headstocks, then CBS got retarded and couldn't be arsed to do that after a couple years. The final models (late 70s/early 80s) are usually black or wine red with black guards and pups, or bare-ashed.

They also made the Fender Bronco, which is basically a single bridge pickup guitar with a trem entirely different than a Mustangs.

The Cyclone (which hopefully you didn't accidentally buy) came in 3 variations; standard, II, and HH. A Standard Cyclone has a bridge bucker and neck single, with a strat bridge and 24.75" scale, with a Strat thickness body. A Cyclone II is that, with 3 Jag single coils, a Jag switching plate, and a stripe. The HH is as predicted.
 
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Since you brought it up, how is a Cyclone II's switching different from a Jag's?

I've always wanted a Cyclone II because it's like getting a Jaguar and a Mustang in the same guitar.
 
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Since you brought it up, how is a Cyclone II's switching different from a Jag's?

I've always wanted a Cyclone II because it's like getting a Jaguar and a Mustang in the same guitar.

Well, it's not really, but since there are three pickups, there winds up being no bright switch. It would be totally cool if they used a Bass VI plate and kept the bright, but they used up enough real estate for the Jag plate anyway.

I've always wanted a Cyclone II as well, but really without the 1 meg pots it'll most likely still sound more like a... "normal" Mustang or Strat, or whatever. Still I like being able to get the neck/bridge combo, and they look badass...

lol, I think about Chops' gear a lot too :naughty: Especially the Bandmaster. Though since I changed the pickups especially and am now able to turn the gain up, I'm more inseperable from the Jag...
 
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Thanks for all the info dangly! This is for sure a reissue of one of the older Mustangs. The pic is attached, although it's not that exact one, it looks exactly like the one below! I'll post actual pics when I take it out at the end of the month!

POST PICS OF YOUR 'STANGS if you got 'em!
 
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FYI, Slade, you should be hoping he got a Cyclone ;)
 
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...lol, no problem with Cyclones really, if I ever find a good deal on a dos... but the one thing that really makes the Mustang stand out IMO is the trem. I really wish they still made Cyclones.

Yeah, that ought to be a Mustang though, really is one of the best colors... The only way it could be more perfect is a matching stock, but they didn't get the decal right on the reissues anyway so... (Yeah, I'm too snobbish about these guitars). It just threw me when you said "Jag switching" and it really is sort of a rare finish in the US... outside of Cyclones.

The CIJ pickups are nice for stock, but I doubt too many people will be upset about pulling them for something Duncan.

Hopefully that guitar is what you want in any case...

Here's my dream stang, I was going to make a clone of this, but plans changed when I found a mostly original 66 neck/body... I didn't want to dig in for contours, or refin. the stock, though that had aged to a nice orange anyway... Next to my eventual result.

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A few old pics of mine.

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...Me, looking shaggy at a forum fest of some sort...

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...OLD pic

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honestly I haven't been monitoring the prices on the bay as close as I used to... There's nothing to show it's not a 65 up front, and he hasn't taken the thing apart to verify anything... And in the condition he describes it to be in/it looks to be in (not quite collector quality), there's no reason to disbelieve him/care about that.

If the listing/photography were done with a more knowledgeable eye to what pedants want to see, I'm sure it could easily in that state be one of those axes that brings quite a bit of money, but as the listing looks like that, you can use that to your advantage, it might wind up being a deal (though the questions show that more than a few people are interested :))

I'd keep an eye on it... Right now it's at CIJ price (with 4 days to go), at $1,000 it goes for the price of a used AV, above that who knows how far it'll go... I'd say likely not above $2000.

(for the record, just in case we're confusing anyone, we're now talking Jags :))
 
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My first electric guitar was a 65 Fender Mustang. I got it in 1982 for $125! Those days are long gone! Before Cobian Mustangs didn't have much value. I thought the simple switching system was cool and yielded as many cool sounds as you could get from two singles. I'm ashamed to say I traded it (and some cash) in the mid 80's for a shiny red Kramer with a pointy headstock.......everybody had a Kramer in the 80's!
 
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lol, the only real Fender vintage "deal" you can find now is the early Musicmasters/Duo Sonics (specifically 59-63, with the 22.25" neck, rosewood, no aluminum guard etc...)

They go for almost reasonable prices still, occasionally...
 
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That seafoam green is gorgeous! I remember when you built that thing...hot sh*t it made me want to go get one!

The stock pups on the 'Stang I put down on are pretty good though, and I'm not even thinking of changing them out right now. The bridge pickup is pretty aggressive and hot under distortion or fuzz it screamed. I got some sweet clean sounds outta the neck pickup.

With both pups in reverse, with the neck switch up and the bridge switch down (out of phase?) the guitar also had a nice TWANG to it. The funk was screaming to get outta this baby!

I'm a fan of lo-fi stuff though, and the pups have a nice White Stripes/Yeah Yeah Yeahs feel too 'em. Oh, I'm so excited I may post soundclips!
 
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The 'stang in your pic is nearly indentical to my first guitar, which was a '68 or '69 Competition Mustang. Make that headstock match the body and that was it.

*sigh*
 
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lol, out of phase is GREAT for funk, but in regular usage, I think the most beautiful tone from a Mustang is both pickups in phase... That just seems to open up the guitar, especially clean (and with the original vintage pickups or duncans, that position is hum canceling). It's fun how heavy you can get with either the neck or bridge pups alone distorted.

Haha, thanks, and it's daphne blue for the record... They just started reissuing them in the same color scheme (there are some MIJs in Sonic Blue, which is slightly lighter, but those have ketchup-esque tort guards and white pickup covers that I'm not fond of...)
 
Re: Tell me about the Fender Mustang...?

honestly I haven't been monitoring the prices on the bay as close as I used to... There's nothing to show it's not a 65 up front, and he hasn't taken the thing apart to verify anything... And in the condition he describes it to be in/it looks to be in (not quite collector quality), there's no reason to disbelieve him/care about that.

If the listing/photography were done with a more knowledgeable eye to what pedants want to see, I'm sure it could easily in that state be one of those axes that brings quite a bit of money, but as the listing looks like that, you can use that to your advantage, it might wind up being a deal (though the questions show that more than a few people are interested :))

I'd keep an eye on it... Right now it's at CIJ price (with 4 days to go), at $1,000 it goes for the price of a used AV, above that who knows how far it'll go... I'd say likely not above $2000.

(for the record, just in case we're confusing anyone, we're now talking Jags :))

Cool, sorry about the hijack but I've been meaning to look into the 'other' fenders for quite awhile now. They seem like really cool guitars.
 
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