The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

[Lewguitar]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

I haven't heard much about the DS1. People tend to say it doesn't boost great though so I'm not too sure...
I'll see what gives tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to play one or 2 on some amps that need boosting. Keep suggesting people The pup booster is out of my budget by the way.

Those people who say that are wrong. Joe Satriani and Steve Vai use the DS-1...hard to find a better or more tone savvy guitarist than either of those two guys. Most people do not know how to use the DS-1. Lew

 

[pac112]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

i dint like the DS-1 as a distortion pedal, but it works well as an boost, i like how it sounds with the 59 neck. The trick is playing with the guitar volume to clean up the sound. Learned all this stuff from Lew's posts about using the DS-1 as a boost instead of a distortion Its not a transparent boost tho, and thats not necesarrily a bad thing.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

i dint like the DS-1 as a distortion pedal, but it works well as an boost, i like how it sounds with the 59 neck. The trick is playing with the guitar volume to clean up the sound. Learned all this stuff from Lew's posts about using the DS-1 as a boost instead of a distortion Its not a transparent boost tho, and thats not necesarrily a bad thing.

Thanks! Yes: it is not a fuzz tone or square wave generating distortion pedal. It's an overdrive pedal or pickup booster type pedal. I can make my Tele sound like a Les Paul with the DS-1 though...similar to the way Jimmy Page made his Tele sound like a Les Paul on the first Led Zep album. Lew

 

[Pierre]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

Oh...
So, SD1 or DS1 in the end? I'm lost about which works best now

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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Oh...
So, SD1 or DS1 in the end? I'm lost about which works best now

Trust me...GET BOTH!

The SD-1 is a good overdrive and the DS-1 is a Distortion pedal...the DS-1 has lots more gain on tap. If you want my personal oinion...get an SD-1 and l;earn out to use your guitar and amp to go from clean to crunch w/o any pedals then step on the SD-1 for a gain/level boost...but, if you want to keep it simple get thje SD-1 for mild OD and the DS-1 for heavier stuff...

 

[Pierre]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

If I wanted a distortion or even straight OD, I'd try something more expensive and (hopefully, though I can't tell too good) better. Right now all I care for is a boost really, and I can only afford one Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[Pierre]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

Ohh wait... Lew did you mean the DS1 as a stand alone, and not as a boost? Because I really do want a boost just for now.

 

[ErikH]

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Those people who say that are wrong. Joe Satriani and Steve Vai use the DS-1...hard to find a better or more tone savvy guitarist than either of those two guys. Most people do not know how to use the DS-1. Lew

Both of them had theirs heavily modded by Keeley so they sound nothing like they do stock. I may get another one at some point just to muck around with and try some mods out on.

 

[Pierre]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

Ah
Zakk Wylde used an SD1. Since I'm trying, in essence, to get close to his tone's basis, I think the SD1 will couple well with my amp (since after all, it's a JCM800 clone, but cooler ) and with its tone control I'd be able to add the bass I'd lose with the amp (too much bass on amp = fuzzy, for some reason. Great for solos though).
Nothing to be said on the Bad Monkey? And how would the DS1 be different from the SD1 as a boost?

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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Ah
Zakk Wylde used an SD1. Since I'm trying, in essence, to get close to his tone's basis, I think the SD1 will couple well with my amp (since after all, it's a JCM800 clone, but cooler ) and with its tone control I'd be able to add the bass I'd lose with the amp (too much bass on amp = fuzzy, for some reason. Great for solos though).
Nothing to be said on the Bad Monkey? And how would the DS1 be different from the SD1 as a boost?

a Bad Monkey is a cheap TS-9 clone...as for the SD-1/DS-1 the DS-1 has far more distortion on hand, the SD-1 has a bass cut off and a mid hump....if you are looking for a Zack Wylde kind of thing the SD-1 will be MUCH better for you, but remember it is an OVERDRIVE...as a stand alone pedal into a clean amp it is not very nasty...

 

[Pierre]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

I'm not going to work it as a stand alone, unless of course I do some blues or very light crunch. But the amp itself has some great OD so it won't be a need.
I heard great reviews on the Bad Monkey... It's cheaper too... Though of course there's not the Zakk Wylde connection

 

[bungalowbill]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

No need to dream if you can handle a soldering iron. The Fulltone Fat boost is a circuit that was lifted from Jack Orman's website, and the schematic is here. Its literally about $10 worth of parts. Jack supplies the circuit board if you want to make it real easy.

More info in this article.

Build and enjoy.

Artie

(btw - The SD Booster is suweeeet!) :laugh2:

Artie, You are the Man! Thanks

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

Both of them had theirs heavily modded by Keeley so they sound nothing like they do stock. I may get another one at some point just to muck around with and try some mods out on.

Only partly true. The sounds you hear on thier early recordings are unmodded MIJ DS-1's. And they sound great. Like I said, most guys don't know how to use a DS-1. They DO NOT need to be modded, although John Spina does a nice mod. The mods tend to add un-needed gain (IMO) and make it more difficult to get the sparkling clean tones that a stock DS-1 gives when you turn the guitar's volume down to half though. There was an interview with Steve Vai in Vintage Guitar Magazine a few years ago before he started using using the Keeley modded DS-1's. He said he used a stock MIJ DS-1 although he also said he heard very little difference between it and the Taiwanese version that Boss offers now. Lew

 

[kjrocks]

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I'm with ErikH,I use a Wylde OD and recently a modded SD-1 and they both do the job well.The ZW-44 is just a little beefier and seem to have a nicer bottom end.The SD-1 however is clear and smooth and can give you a great high gain sound when used with the amps distortion.Just check out the Wylde's footswitch,some are a little funky.Mine is and I've read others are too.I havent heard the fix for it yet,I just stomp again

 

[ErikH]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

Pierre, if Zakk is what you're after, then the ZW-44 is what you want. He uses that now instead of the SD-1. I have both and I tell ya, I like the ZW-44 better.

 

[ErikH]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

Only partly true. The sounds you hear on thier early recordings are unmodded MIJ DS-1's. And they sound great. Like I said, most guys don't know how to use a DS-1. They DO NOT need to be modded, although John Spina does a nice mod. The mods tend to add un-needed gain (IMO) and make it more difficult to get the sparkling clean tones that a stock DS-1 gives when you turn the guitar's volume down to half though. There was an interview with Steve Vai in Vintage Guitar Magazine a few years ago before he started using using the Keeley modded DS-1's. He said he used a stock MIJ DS-1 although he also said he heard very little difference between it and the Taiwanese version that Boss offers now. Lew

Maybe that explains why I don't like their tone in the early recordings. To me is just sounded too shrill, not enough beef to it. I see where you're coming from though.

 

[Pierre]

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I can't afford the ZW yet... When I get some more dough I'll sell the SD1 and get it. That's more of a temporary solution.
So you guys really think the SD1 has the edge over the Bad Monkey, both boost and noise wise?

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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I can't afford the ZW yet... When I get some more dough I'll sell the SD1 and get it. That's more of a temporary solution.
So you guys really think the SD1 has the edge over the Bad Monkey, both boost and noise wise?

I think that the Bad Monkey sounds fair...not my first, 2nd or even 3rd pick and it is one noisel SOB...

 

[Pierre]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

I just been to the local shop, they sell the SD1 for 71 euros :laugh2: and they didn't have one in stock, so they were suggesting that I use a Johnson OD meanwhile (which didn't seem so bad, but didn't have nearly as enough boost).
I talked to my parents, they still owe me 194 euros (way more than enough for the Jekyll and Hyde...) but I won't get it for a while since we're all very short at the moment So it looks like the SD1 is all I can afford for now.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: The boost thread (millionienth or so by me)

I just been to the local shop, they sell the SD1 for 71 euros :laugh2: and they didn't have one in stock, so they were suggesting that I use a Johnson OD meanwhile (which didn't seem so bad, but didn't have nearly as enough boost).
I talked to my parents, they still owe me 194 euros (way more than enough for the Jekyll and Hyde...) but I won't get it for a while since we're all very short at the moment So it looks like the SD1 is all I can afford for now.

the Boss Sd-1 is a great unit...why do you seem unhappy about geting it?