The latest on Dean

I have many friends who work there, and have been to the factory many times. Well, it is more of a warehouse than a factory. Dean lost the Gibson lawsuit, then all of their major endorsers fled. Then the family imploded. It is all very sad.
 
yeah, and Step Momma has posted some bad things about playboy/business boy step son... so Im not sure what happens to the company...

My money is family divests and splits whats left of the falling brand value to someone who can operate the company with an eye for the future

Sometimes these kinds of things are the best things to happen to companies -forces them to really do their own thing -Hopefully Dean can get on the front foot with some new things.
 
I guess the other question is "who's next" for the Gibby lawyers -or was Armadillo and Heritage enough to get their message across?
 
My guess would be the banks take ownership of the companies and brand and sell it to an investment company, unless an actual manufacturing buyer wants to take it over/merge. Would be ironic if Gibson ended up with the brand and just kept selling the same shapes.

Gibson reminds me of Microsoft. When I was between high school and college I briefly worked for an internet company that did mortgage and banking web sites, and Microsoft came in and said, "We have $3 million dollars. We can either buy you, or crush you."
 
They should have moved on from Explorers and V's a long time ago. A simple body shape change, and they could have kept on going. ESP, Schecter, and Ibanez have done well with those altered shapes. The ML is definitely a Dean design - just stop doing Dime's paint schemes. Is Dean management too lazy to change? Or too stupid? I really do wish them well, as I like their guitars. Still don't understand why the Cadi isn't more popular, but that's a subject for another thread.
 
Even when Elliot was around, they had trouble keeping endorsers. The ones they had were all from 80s 2nd and 3rd tier bands. Everything was all metal, all the time. And some of the shapes are just terrible.
 
Mincer said:
Even when Elliot was around, they had trouble keeping endorsers. The ones they had were all from 80s 2nd and 3rd tier bands. Everything was all metal, all the time. And some of the shapes are just terrible.
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Maybe if they got someone to design their guitars other than medieval weapons of torture experts they'd have more appeal to non-Viking guitarists.

Larry
 
Everything was all metal, all the time.
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Not quite.... The Palomino was essentially an ES-175. They've had other stuff that was distinctly not metal.
But they have strived since the early Dean girls days to be outrageous and bleeding edge, as it were.
They need a market advisor like you, Dave... just to temper the foolishness.

I have this weird theory that Hendrix would still be alive if he'd had ONE honest friend who told him, "You're NOT a god, Jimi".
 
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Not quite.... The Palomino was essentially an ES-175. They've had other stuff that was distinctly not metal.
But they have strived since the early Dean girls days to be outrageous and bleeding edge, as it were.
They need a market advisor like you, Dave... just to temper the foolishness.

I have this weird theory that Hendrix would still be alive if he'd had ONE honest friend who told him, "You're NOT a god, Jimi".
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You are right, I forgot about a handful of models that weren't all 'metaled out'. But even those had weird design choices. The Palomino feels like a cheap guitar, too. I've played the ones in the Dean showroom (it was the only model not in some ridiculous flame paintjob or something equally gaudy). I believe the one I played was seafoam with really cheap gold hardware.
 
I like the M. Batio shredder's & some of the Mustaine "V"s are cool. But I've never owned a Dean guitar. The oversea's one's are all made by Cort though... & almost 100% the same shapes/designs/finishes...
 
I like the Dimebag one with the 'Cemetary Gates' graphic too... even the V headstock goes okay with that graphic. It's probably the only Dime design i like though for some reason..
 
beaubrummels said:
My guess would be the banks take ownership of the companies and brand and sell it to an investment company, unless an actual manufacturing buyer wants to take it over/merge. Would be ironic if Gibson ended up with the brand and just kept selling the same shapes.
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It would not surprise me if Gibson took over. Unlike Fender/Jackson, Gibson does not have a pointy brand. They have Kramer as an 80's brand but that is mostly superstrats. I can see Gibson wanting to add the Cadilac, ML, Splittail, and other designs to their portfolio.
 
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