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Thanks!
It's a fun guitar, I think they still make the VIP body, you should do it!
The Warmoth Club
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rgand
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Just remember, once you start down this road there's no turning back. :lmao:
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Warmoth one-piece maple neck, satin nitro finish. Fender 2001 American Series Double Fat Strat body.
Warmoth one-piece maple neck, satin nitro finish. Fender 2001 American Series Double Fat Strat body.
MkIII Renegade
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One of the coolest Warmoths I've seen in a long time! Nice choices....
Here's my Warmoth I built probably 15 years ago from parts on eBay. It's inspired by the PRS triple P90s they used to do. Kind of like the proverbial Strat on Steroids, it's my P90 guitar until I can finally get a real SG or Les Paul with P90s.
It's a Hot (B) Bridge, Vintage (N) Middle and Vintage (B) Neck for hum cancelling in the mid positions.
One of the coolest Warmoths I've seen in a long time! Nice choices....
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treyhaislip
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Probably one of my favorite threads on this forum–so many cool projects posted here!
My current Warmoth project: Roasted Swamp Ash body and Roasted Quartersawn Maple neck. The body and neck weigh in just under 5 lbs (without hardware.)
Finish is a super thin nitro in Mary Kay White...Roasted Swamp Ash is very dark so the color is darker than your normal Mary Kay White on Ash.
If you do a Tele, I highly recommend the Tummy Cut and Forearm Contour (the Contoured Heel is nice too.)
Probably one of my favorite threads on this forum–so many cool projects posted here!
My current Warmoth project: Roasted Swamp Ash body and Roasted Quartersawn Maple neck. The body and neck weigh in just under 5 lbs (without hardware.)
Finish is a super thin nitro in Mary Kay White...Roasted Swamp Ash is very dark so the color is darker than your normal Mary Kay White on Ash.
If you do a Tele, I highly recommend the Tummy Cut and Forearm Contour (the Contoured Heel is nice too.)
treyhaislip
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Thanks! With the caramel body color and MKW paint mixture it has a lot more of the "blues" coming thru than my previous MKW bodies.
Thanks! With the caramel body color and MKW paint mixture it has a lot more of the "blues" coming thru than my previous MKW bodies.
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Finally joining the club, after years of evenings spent looking at the designer and working with circuit diagrams on Visio.
She's swamp ash, with a roasted maple neck, finished in satin trans blue. Wilkinson trem, contoured heel, and a beast of a wiring job involving four mini DPDTs, three push-push pots, two P-Rails and a Classic Stack. She has a lot, I mean a lot, of good sounds in her, from classic Strat to LP to Goldtop and a hint of Tele.
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Finally joining the club, after years of evenings spent looking at the designer and working with circuit diagrams on Visio.
She's swamp ash, with a roasted maple neck, finished in satin trans blue. Wilkinson trem, contoured heel, and a beast of a wiring job involving four mini DPDTs, three push-push pots, two P-Rails and a Classic Stack. She has a lot, I mean a lot, of good sounds in her, from classic Strat to LP to Goldtop and a hint of Tele.
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Ok, the wiring... lay it on me.
I've been contemplating a Dual P-Rails and Cool Rails setup and have been messing around with wiring ideas in Visio as well. What have you got?
I'm guessing the 4 mini switches get all the P-Rails combos, similar to the triple shots, then one push pull adds the neck (bridge) to the other selected combo and one is for phase? What's the tied?
Very unique and looks great!
Ok, the wiring... lay it on me.
I've been contemplating a Dual P-Rails and Cool Rails setup and have been messing around with wiring ideas in Visio as well. What have you got?
I'm guessing the 4 mini switches get all the P-Rails combos, similar to the triple shots, then one push pull adds the neck (bridge) to the other selected combo and one is for phase? What's the tied?
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Liko
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The volume switch is a neck-on as you guessed, but I've never been one for phase switching, just doesn't work for me. The two tone pots are my newfangled "Select-A-Tone" circuit, which I've posted before. In one position (down, in this guitar), the tone pot is 500k/47nF Gibson spec, in the other it's 250k/22nF Fender spec. Fairly simple, one side of the switch selects the tone cap, the other engages or disengages a 500k fixed resistor across the terminals of the 500k pot, using parallel resistance to halve the tone pot value. The result is subtle, but a must-have to really nail the Strat tone when splitting the pickups.
The overall idea is a guitar that can do it all, a "Swiss Army Strat". Depending on the switch settings, she can be a single-coil Strat, Fat Strat, Les Paul, Goldtop, Tele, or anything in between. The series/parallel selection is also key; the P-Rails in series are really hot and dark, perfect for modern rock (though the impedance imbalance makes them a little noisier than ideal), but if you want something more PAF-y, switch over to parallel and they brighten up significantly and back off the in-your-face gain. Once the switches are set, you just use the five-way during the song for rhythm/lead selection (if that).
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The switches do handle coil selection and series/parallel, similar to but not quite like the Triple Shots. I figured out a way to make one switch of the pair always do the same thing (HB-SC selection) which makes it all more intuitive.
The volume switch is a neck-on as you guessed, but I've never been one for phase switching, just doesn't work for me. The two tone pots are my newfangled "Select-A-Tone" circuit, which I've posted before. In one position (down, in this guitar), the tone pot is 500k/47nF Gibson spec, in the other it's 250k/22nF Fender spec. Fairly simple, one side of the switch selects the tone cap, the other engages or disengages a 500k fixed resistor across the terminals of the 500k pot, using parallel resistance to halve the tone pot value. The result is subtle, but a must-have to really nail the Strat tone when splitting the pickups.
The overall idea is a guitar that can do it all, a "Swiss Army Strat". Depending on the switch settings, she can be a single-coil Strat, Fat Strat, Les Paul, Goldtop, Tele, or anything in between. The series/parallel selection is also key; the P-Rails in series are really hot and dark, perfect for modern rock (though the impedance imbalance makes them a little noisier than ideal), but if you want something more PAF-y, switch over to parallel and they brighten up significantly and back off the in-your-face gain. Once the switches are set, you just use the five-way during the song for rhythm/lead selection (if that).
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Cool! Correct me if I'm wrong, but when everything is split you only get hum cancelling in either 2 or 4, right? But you also get hum cancelling in neck+bridge regardless of what combo (P90, rail, Series, Parallel) is selected, right?
Cool! Correct me if I'm wrong, but when everything is split you only get hum cancelling in either 2 or 4, right? But you also get hum cancelling in neck+bridge regardless of what combo (P90, rail, Series, Parallel) is selected, right?
Liko
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Well yes and no. Coil switching in this setup is independent for each pickup. It's advantageous because I can customize what I want in the bridge versus the neck (I can for instance use the P-90 in the bridge for a fatter but still single-coil tone, and use the Rail coil in the neck for a truer Strat rhythm tone), but it means that hum-cancelling behavior in neck+bridge depends on exactly what's selected.
Also, I don't tap the center Classic Stack, ever. Again because I wanted to individually control each coil of the P-Rails, I decided that keeping the middle pickup humbucking and putting up with one coil's noise in the notch positions was better than doubling it for certain combos that I might end up liking. I also like Strat middle pickup tones (unlike some) so I wasn't going to risk not getting them by putting a humbucker in the middle.
Noise will be a thing with this guitar; there's just too much imbalance of coil impedances to fully reject noise in every position, except when the same coil(s) of both P-Rails are in the circuit. You can minimize it (the "south" coils of each pickup, the neck rail and bridge 90, do lose a little hum in the notch position even with the Stack untapped), but even humbucking modes on a soloed pickup are going to have some buzz just because the pickup is made from such different coils. I'm a Strat lover, I'm used to a little buzz.
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Well yes and no. Coil switching in this setup is independent for each pickup. It's advantageous because I can customize what I want in the bridge versus the neck (I can for instance use the P-90 in the bridge for a fatter but still single-coil tone, and use the Rail coil in the neck for a truer Strat rhythm tone), but it means that hum-cancelling behavior in neck+bridge depends on exactly what's selected.
Also, I don't tap the center Classic Stack, ever. Again because I wanted to individually control each coil of the P-Rails, I decided that keeping the middle pickup humbucking and putting up with one coil's noise in the notch positions was better than doubling it for certain combos that I might end up liking. I also like Strat middle pickup tones (unlike some) so I wasn't going to risk not getting them by putting a humbucker in the middle.
Noise will be a thing with this guitar; there's just too much imbalance of coil impedances to fully reject noise in every position, except when the same coil(s) of both P-Rails are in the circuit. You can minimize it (the "south" coils of each pickup, the neck rail and bridge 90, do lose a little hum in the notch position even with the Stack untapped), but even humbucking modes on a soloed pickup are going to have some buzz just because the pickup is made from such different coils. I'm a Strat lover, I'm used to a little buzz.
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Very cool. I'm also a Strat lover, and two of my guitars don't even have RWRP, so I can relate. I might need to make the P-Rail guitar happen!
Very cool. I'm also a Strat lover, and two of my guitars don't even have RWRP, so I can relate. I might need to make the P-Rail guitar happen!
