This will make me sound like a NOOB.
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korovamilkdud
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Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
Yoda pic is made of win, and I'm totally stealing it. :lmao:
Yoda pic is made of win, and I'm totally stealing it. :lmao:
metalspider
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Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
welll ive heard of several explanations.
1.the eq frequencies you hear change with the volume at higher volumes you hear the bass and treble more dominantly.
2.when playing with a band the eq "spectrum" is taken up by all the instruments,bass guitar on the bass cymbals and such on the treble and the guitar is mostly in the mids.
so if you are used to a really scooped sound at home once you are in a band you need to raise your volume a lot in order to hear the guitar its much easier to just use more mids.
3.the more gain you use the less detail your guitar signal has,what gain does is cut away at the original signal of your instrument,so tones with less gain are easier to hear,a clean guitar tone is much easier to hear in a band then a heavy distortion tone.
welll ive heard of several explanations.
1.the eq frequencies you hear change with the volume at higher volumes you hear the bass and treble more dominantly.
2.when playing with a band the eq "spectrum" is taken up by all the instruments,bass guitar on the bass cymbals and such on the treble and the guitar is mostly in the mids.
so if you are used to a really scooped sound at home once you are in a band you need to raise your volume a lot in order to hear the guitar its much easier to just use more mids.
3.the more gain you use the less detail your guitar signal has,what gain does is cut away at the original signal of your instrument,so tones with less gain are easier to hear,a clean guitar tone is much easier to hear in a band then a heavy distortion tone.
StillLearnin'
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Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
Another big factor is that guitar speakers are not Hi-Fi speakers and are part of the tone and not just faithfully reproducing what is fed into them - consequently they start behaving differently as the power output is increased. Combine that with a tube output stage and the interaction of the speaker with the output tubes and things always change as you bring up the volume
Another big factor is that guitar speakers are not Hi-Fi speakers and are part of the tone and not just faithfully reproducing what is fed into them - consequently they start behaving differently as the power output is increased. Combine that with a tube output stage and the interaction of the speaker with the output tubes and things always change as you bring up the volume
guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
I don't claim to know much about amps, but the point is that when that Splawn is ran below the clipping level, it paints the whole signal in the speaker, whereas when it's clipping some of the detail is cut off.
I don't claim to know much about amps, but the point is that when that Splawn is ran below the clipping level, it paints the whole signal in the speaker, whereas when it's clipping some of the detail is cut off.
richard parker
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Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
You're playing a 100w half stack in your bedroom ? There's your problem. Totally the wrong place to make a judgement on how it sounds. Put it up against a loud drummer and a bassist with a big rig and then report back.
You're playing a 100w half stack in your bedroom ? There's your problem. Totally the wrong place to make a judgement on how it sounds. Put it up against a loud drummer and a bassist with a big rig and then report back.
ACH91332
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Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
Most of the time what you think is a good tone by itself isn't at all. When I was in a band I had a tone that was terrible to my ear and not at all what I wanted to hear when I cranked it by myself but when I was in the band mix, what an amazing tone I had.
Some of the best tone sounds like sh!t by itself.
As far as it being good sounding quiet, well, a lot of it is what I just said but its also because there's no clipping really at all in the poweramp or speakers so its really round, tight, and fluid sounding. When I recorded all my leads I did it at low volumes to get a buttery lead tone but if I wanted to get raw on a different song I'd crank the amp. But yea if you're into all that modern tone that's why you like to hear your amp at low volumes. It "sounds" a lot more compressed and warm at lower volumes.
Most of the time what you think is a good tone by itself isn't at all. When I was in a band I had a tone that was terrible to my ear and not at all what I wanted to hear when I cranked it by myself but when I was in the band mix, what an amazing tone I had.
Some of the best tone sounds like sh!t by itself.
As far as it being good sounding quiet, well, a lot of it is what I just said but its also because there's no clipping really at all in the poweramp or speakers so its really round, tight, and fluid sounding. When I recorded all my leads I did it at low volumes to get a buttery lead tone but if I wanted to get raw on a different song I'd crank the amp. But yea if you're into all that modern tone that's why you like to hear your amp at low volumes. It "sounds" a lot more compressed and warm at lower volumes.
veryhungrycaterpilla
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Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
I think I remember a story about Page putting his amp in a chimney or fireplace for Communication Breakdown.
I think I remember a story about Page putting his amp in a chimney or fireplace for Communication Breakdown.
korovamilkdud
WhoDatologist
Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
Well I'm running that amp at 50 watts, but yeah, that's probably still too much.
Just a crummy room for high volume. Hard walls, hard floors. The only other explanation is that I'm just not digging the speaker compression, in which case I'd need tougher speakers.
*sigh* I do need to gig again too. Clearly the sign of a man who misses playing out is he that cranks up 50 watt stacks in his room.
Well I'm running that amp at 50 watts, but yeah, that's probably still too much.
Just a crummy room for high volume. Hard walls, hard floors. The only other explanation is that I'm just not digging the speaker compression, in which case I'd need tougher speakers.
*sigh* I do need to gig again too. Clearly the sign of a man who misses playing out is he that cranks up 50 watt stacks in his room.
ACH91332
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Re: This will make me sound like a NOOB.
+1
Thats like me cranking my 100W with a backing track and deafening the neighbors for hours. Lucky for me they like hearing it. Except one neighbor, she is just a beeeotch but the cops usually just give me a warning lol.
Well I'm running that amp at 50 watts, but yeah, that's probably still too much.
Just a crummy room for high volume. Hard walls, hard floors. The only other explanation is that I'm just not digging the speaker compression, in which case I'd need tougher speakers.
*sigh* I do need to gig again too. Clearly the sign of a man who misses playing out is he that cranks up 50 watt stacks in his room.
+1
Thats like me cranking my 100W with a backing track and deafening the neighbors for hours. Lucky for me they like hearing it. Except one neighbor, she is just a beeeotch but the cops usually just give me a warning lol.
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