Titanium Floyd Rose Big-Blocks are the shiznit.

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BloodRose said:
Not trying to be a wiseguy, honest questions..What is the real advantage of using Ti?? I mean, the whole benefit is adding heft/weight.. So.. as in your picture, brass block is bigger and heavier than the stocker. So, since Ti is light, you have to have twice as much right? How is that better than brass if you are going for the same weight?? AND... if you stick such a huge block in there, does it hinder the range of dive??
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I compared the two blocks (Titanium and Brass) when I did the swap, and they weigh pretty much the same, surprisingly. My guess is the Titanium is a lot more resonant then the Brass, so that the same amount of metal gives a way more pronounced effect. What do I know, though? :lol: And the range of use has not been impaired in the slightest on any of the ones I've installed....there was a guy in an earlier thread here crying that it did, but turned out after describing it he had his installed backwards...:foot:

(Plus, there are copy-cats on the market now that are specifically designed TO block the cavity, so don't get one of those by mistake)

vinterland said:
Do you have to modify your routing to get a block like that in I guess is what I'm asking?
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You shouldn't, if you use the right size block...general rule of thumb is 42mm for a non-recessed, 37mm for a standard recessed, and 32mm for the ones with both recessed bridge and rear spring-cover plate routes...
 
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I have a titanium block. It boosts the upper mids and I really feel it when tapping on the higher strings.

If anybody wants mine, it's for sale.
 
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I find it really hard to believe that the block at the end of my floyd is going to affect my tone that significantly if I swap to a higher grade metal. Acoustical improvements and nuances mean little to nothing if they're not amplified when you plug it in.
 
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projectx1106 said:
I find it really hard to believe that the block at the end of my floyd is going to affect my tone that significantly if I swap to a higher grade metal. Acoustical improvements and nuances mean little to nothing if they're not amplified when you plug it in.
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:ok: Then you don't get the mass=sustain concept. It's not only higher grade metal, it's more of it.
Let's put it this way: I've yet to meet (or see on these boards) anyone who's actually tried them and THEN said "meh". :28: Mostly because it'd be the equivalent of saying "No thanks, I'd rather continue to sound crappy"...:approve: The only possible exception being Atomic Chameleon there...selling yours? Did you go back to the standard block? "Are you daft, man?" And oh, yeah, what size and how much? LMAO ;)

But projectx1106, if you're content with the (by comparison gnat-like) sound of the standard block, by all means continue using it. Don't bother to hear the difference for yourself. :)


And I'd completely disagree that "acoustical improvements and nuances mean little to nothing"; perhaps if you're dead (or 16) :lol:, ;) but personally if my guitar feels more responsive I play that much better when amplified...
 
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Hmm.. Again, still not seeing how titanium can sound different.. I would, however like to go for say brass.. Prob is tho... What guitar to get one for?? I have at least 6 OFRs and several others. My guitars with the OFRs are def the ones Id like to upgrade, but ouch, that would set me back a ton... I have to try to pick one to do it to..
 
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Why not do a drawing? Put each guitar's name into a hat and pull one out at random
 
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BloodRose said:
Hmm.. Again, still not seeing how titanium can sound different.. I would, however like to go for say brass.. Prob is tho... What guitar to get one for?? I have at least 6 OFRs and several others. My guitars with the OFRs are def the ones Id like to upgrade, but ouch, that would set me back a ton... I have to try to pick one to do it to..
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Again, not being a metallurgist, I can't tell you exactly why it does either, but to my ears it does. :approve:

As far as where to start on your OFRs, I'd say try this...:1:
Which one is your "go-to" guitar? The one you find yourself playing most often? My advice would be to upgrade that one to a Brass block for starters. If you're anything like me, suddenly that one is going to sound a LOT better than the other ones to you - it'll be fatter, more responsive and resonant, even acoustically, and will sustain better and sound even more ballsy amplified. Then you'll start going "Hmmmm"...:scratchch
I ended up swapping out all of mine for the Brass ones, but I think only two maybe three of the four are going to get the Titanium upgrade. :friday:
 
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OK, I can't talk about the Titanium upgrade but BOY does the Big Block deliver!!!

I hadn't played my guitar in a week and even before that I didn't play her very often since I had just got my MK Partiot but as soon as I took her in my hands and played her acoustically I could tell she sounded so much more ALIVE.

Through the amp she was fuller with both fatter lows and lusher highs and an added definition and clarity to the notes that simply wasn't there before.
It also made the guitar MUCH more responsive to nuances like different picking.

Best 40$ I ever spent (50-sth with shipping).
 
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NUNOSLASH said:
Post a clip showing the sustain!
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Easier said than done with my crappy cellphone cam...:D

I can post one where an open chord or single note sustains as long as I'm able to record at the moment (about 20 seconds), but that's kinda boring...:lol:

It bears mentioning that the legato run at the end is facilitated more by the improved responsiveness and string transfer than the amount of gain on this setting, which isn't a ton...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XimDJEX57uM

KeeperOS said:
OK, I can't talk about the Titanium upgrade but BOY does the Big Block deliver!!!

I hadn't played my guitar in a week and even before that I didn't play her very often since I had just got my MK Partiot but as soon as I took her in my hands and played her acoustically I could tell she sounded so much more ALIVE.

Through the amp she was fuller with both fatter lows and lusher highs and an added definition and clarity to the notes that simply wasn't there before.
It also made the guitar MUCH more responsive to nuances like different picking.

Best 40$ I ever spent (50-sth with shipping).
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He gets it! :friday:
 
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jhale667 said:
:ok: Then you don't get the mass=sustain concept. It's not only higher grade metal, it's more of it.
Let's put it this way: I've yet to meet (or see on these boards) anyone who's actually tried them and THEN said "meh". :28: Mostly because it'd be the equivalent of saying "No thanks, I'd rather continue to sound crappy"...:approve: The only possible exception being Atomic Chameleon there...selling yours? Did you go back to the standard block? "Are you daft, man?" And oh, yeah, what size and how much? LMAO ;)

But projectx1106, if you're content with the (by comparison gnat-like) sound of the standard block, by all means continue using it. Don't bother to hear the difference for yourself. :)


And I'd completely disagree that "acoustical improvements and nuances mean little to nothing"; perhaps if you're dead (or 16) :lol:, ;) but personally if my guitar feels more responsive I play that much better when amplified...
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You read the last part really incorrectly; I said they mean little to nothing, IF those differences are not amplified. I'm speaking in relation to the sound the amp produces, not the playability as you so alluded to. I don't appreciate your accusatory tone. I was making a statement and reflecting my thoughts in hope that someone would politely explain the science behind the Ti block v. steel or whatever. Lastly, I have very good ears.
 
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jhale667 said:
The only possible exception being Atomic Chameleon there...selling yours? Did you go back to the standard block? "Are you daft, man?" And oh, yeah, what size and how much? LMAO ;)
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Nah, it's more of a thing not so much suited to my style. There's more shimmer in the upper midrange but there's also more poof on the lows. I like really defined lows and this thing, well rings out too much.

Great playing btw.
 
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projectx1106 said:
You read the last part really incorrectly; I said they mean little to nothing, IF those differences are not amplified. I'm speaking in relation to the sound the amp produces, not the playability as you so alluded to. I don't appreciate your accusatory tone. I was making a statement and reflecting my thoughts in hope that someone would politely explain the science behind the Ti block v. steel or whatever. Lastly, I have very good ears.
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If my post came off as seemingly accusatory, perhaps it was because your original post came of as somewhat dismissive, sorry.

Let's review: "I find it really hard to believe that the block at the end of my floyd is going to affect my tone" :28: as opposed to, say "How does the block at the end of my Floyd affect my tone?" :scratchch , know what I mean?
You didn't phrase it as though you wanted a polite explanation. You didn't even phrase it as a question, for that matter. :naughty: But wasn't trying to flame you or anything. Bygones.
And let's put it this way: if your ears are even vaguely functional ;) , you'll be able to tell the difference from the first time you played the thing after the install...Brass OR Titanium. As I mentioned earlier, as soon as I had installed the first (Brass) one I knew I was going to need to do all my Floyd-equipped guitars, because it sounded so much better in comparison to the others.

Atomic Chameleon said:
Nah, it's more of a thing not so much suited to my style. There's more shimmer in the upper midrange but there's also more poof on the lows. I like really defined lows and this thing, well rings out too much.

Great playing btw.
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Thanks. Not your thing - I hear ya. Can't really agree with the "Poof" thing, but ...guess somebody has to be the exception, right? LOL
But sounds as though you'd still confirm it does make a difference, yes?
 
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What about with a floyd that sit on the body. Dive only like a wolfgang. Would it then increase the sustain?
 
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jhale667 said:
If my post came off as seemingly accusatory, perhaps it was because your original post came of as somewhat dismissive, sorry.

Let's review: "I find it really hard to believe that the block at the end of my floyd is going to affect my tone" :28: as opposed to, say "How does the block at the end of my Floyd affect my tone?" :scratchch , know what I mean?
You didn't phrase it as though you wanted a polite explanation. You didn't even phrase it as a question, for that matter. :naughty: But wasn't trying to flame you or anything. Bygones.
And let's put it this way: if your ears are even vaguely functional ;) , you'll be able to tell the difference from the first time you played the thing after the install...Brass OR Titanium. As I mentioned earlier, as soon as I had installed the first (Brass) one I knew I was going to need to do all my Floyd-equipped guitars, because it sounded so much better in comparison to the others.



Thanks. Not your thing - I hear ya. Can't really agree with the "Poof" thing, but ...guess somebody has to be the exception, right? LOL
But sounds as though you'd still confirm it does make a difference, yes?
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My apologies. The difference in tone doesn't justify the price for me though lol. Maye someday if I have some bank lying around :cool2:
 
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projectx1106 said:
My apologies. The difference in tone doesn't justify the price for me though lol. Maye someday if I have some bank lying around :cool2:
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No worries. ;) It is a serious investment in one's tone (especially if you have multiple guitars with Floyds), but definitely worth it, IMO. :cool2:
 
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Wow $250 for a small block of metal!! ****!!

I want it.

It's either that or a television set! hmmmm...

I would put it in my conceived T-beam aluminum neck guitar that I'm planning on making.
 
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