Triple Shot mounting rings

[bard2dbone]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

So let me be sure I understand:

With the TS's I can use a set of P-Rails in an Epiphone Dot with no new holes added? That is to say 2 vol, 2 tone, one three way switch...and still be able to play in P 90, single coil, and HB modes? :arms:

I'm feeling VERY optimistic. That's not a normal feeling for me. :dance:

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

I'm not familiar with the P-Rail as far as how its wiring relates to a typical 4-conductor humbucker i.e. the whole splitting thing - I assume that by pushing both the switches one way you would split to the Rail, then pushing them both the other way you would split to the 90, but I'm not entirely sure what moving them both in/both out would give you. I assume, again, that one would be both coils on in Series and both coils on in Parallel, but again, I don't know the P-Rails' wiring details.

 

[Fusion1]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

Maybe it happened by coincidence, but I thought just by the nature of the release of the P-rails and the Triple Shots at or around the same time (give or take a year) that they were designed to be a unit ie. that they totally compliment each other. I'm sure that can be said with any pickup and the Triple Shot, but more so since the P-Rails is so unique with many different sounds above and beyond your typical humbucker.

I am assuming a P-Rails with the Triple Shots gives you full humbucking series, split rail coil, and p-90 mode. Plus I am sure with additional switches you can get the phase and parallel wirings if needed.

Frank or anyone else that knows for sure, feel free to correct me as I am only speculating. I am looking forward to getting a set of Tripleshots for myself in Creme arched for my Dot or Artcore AM73.

 

[frankfalbo]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

Triple Shots are a great partner for the P-Rails, but they work well with ANY 4-conductor humbucker, and in each case they provide each coil alone, series, and parallel. Triple Shots get you all four sounds from the P-Rails.

 

[mudpuppy]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

Just got my triple shot set installed in my Epi LP and I'm lovin' 'em. I changed every bit of electrical but the bridge gound wire. Jazz neck and Demon bridge. Pups sound great in series HB mode, either singly or blended. They also sound great in single coil mode, especially blended. I'm not too impressed with parallel HB on either pup, but didn't really expect to be. I'm still playing around with heights. I'm pretty close right now, but may need some minor tweeks.

I also put 'pointer' washers under my speed knobs. It's always struck me as dumb to have numbered knobs without position indicators. With all of the triple shot permutations to play with, I figured I needed to keep track of my tone/vol setting. When I find a really tastey tone, I like to be able to reproduce it later.

I'm very happy with my pickup choices. The Jazz has more character than some of it's critics claim, with plenty of output for my taste. The Demon is ballsy yet articulate.

Installation of the triple shots was a piece of cake.

 

[penguinmessiah]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

I also just received and installed my P-Rails and Triple Shot.

After a three hour battle (my first pick-up installation) I managed to get them set-up. Apparently my Epi LP has rings significantly bigger than the Triple Shots which meant I had to 'stretch' the TS's into place... I even broke a screw doing it but in the end - Man was victorious in the war against technology

Anyway, I'm off to have some fun with these, clips and videos sure to follow.

 

[Fusion1]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

Didn't think of that. So the mounting screws didn't line up correct? IIRC Epiphone rings are differently spaced than Gibson OEM mounting rings. Putting Triple Shots on my Epi Dot will be a compromise now... stretch out a set of $60 rings, with the possibility of breaking them or permanently re-shaping them (to a trapezoid kind of shape) or drill new holes...

 

[mudpuppy]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

Holes for my MIK Epi were a little off, but not too bad. Maybe off by 1/16". I did have a couple of other problems: 1) The Epi pups had a sort of triangular tab, vs. the more square tabs on the Duncans. The pickup cavity routes were too narrow to clear the tabs on the new pups. 2) The cans on the original pots were smaller than the replacements I got from StewMac. The control cavity would not allow the bridge tone pot to fit.

Both problems were solved with a little bit of dremel tool work.

 

[penguinmessiah]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

On closer inspection it seems like the holes may have been drilled poorly. The Triple Shot is certainly very slightly smaller than the EPI Ring but the position of the neck pickup holes do certainly 'trapezoid' my ring quite a bit - to the point where it's fairly obvious from arms length.

Oh well.

They sound great.

 

[penguinmessiah]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

Oh, and one final note.

As I sat down to start soldering I realized I had nothing to solder on to protect from burns, dropped solder or whatever. I looked for some cardboard but all I had was an old magazine. When I picked it up I realized it was the March issue of Guitar Player - the very magazine that I first saw the P-Rails in that made me want to put them in my guitar!

Haha.

 

[greatbob6]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

So I got my Triple Shots & P-Rails installed in my Epi LP Standard last night and I had the some spacing problem with the Triple Shots...however, I just drilled out a teeny bit of the screw holes and was able to fairly easily install them after that without a ton of stress on the screws.

Unfortunately I haven't had time to restring the guitar yet so I haven't really been able to check them out yet...

 

[penguinmessiah]

Re: Triple Shot mounting rings

P-Rails + Triple Shot = Sexy