Tweed vs Blackface

[Luke Duke]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

BUMP

For good measure

 

[Bludave]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

The Tweeds I like a little Drity... The BF's I like as clean as possible.... As such, I rely on the clean sound of BF and just place pedals in front to kick the tubes in the balls! If I had the money, I would have a BF, Tweed, and Marshall/MesaBoogie all setup on a channel switcher to cover their own specialties!!!!!

Hope this is what you were looking for in a response!
Allen

Thats kind of the approach I use. I use a MArshall 900 50W combo A/b'd with a Fender Super Reverb or a Deluxe Reverb. I tend to like the Super Reverb alittle more than the Deluxe at this time (I have only had the Deluxe for abot a month). The Super is a SF the Deluxe is a BF. The reason why I like the Super better is it has a lot more headroom. Tone wise I think they are really quite similar.

I have a TS9 in front of the Fenders and I hardly ever use the Clean on the Marshall. I use the Marshall Drive channel, but I have the gain set fairly low.

Its interesting but I read that SRV did just the opposite. He used the Vibrolux for his gain and the Plexi for his cleans???

 

[Quencho092]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

the driven fender sound is smooth and fluid, marshall sound is middy and crunchier. SRV had a REALLY smooth and fluid sound up until he started to use JCM 800's in the late 80's to get the buzz fest beehive in his cabinet.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

GJ, do you remember Hudson's explanation on tweed and reverb?

I'm not sure of the technical reason, but he said that the Tweed Circuit is Similar to a plexi circuit, and it's hard to get the circuit to balance when a reverb circuit is added. That's why Plexis and Tweeds really don't use reverb. I think modern amps can be made to work with reverb, which is why the new Vox's, Blues Devilles, and DSL's have reverb. One of the benefits of printed circuit boards.

 

[CapoFirstFret]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

the driven fender sound is smooth and fluid, marshall sound is middy and crunchier. SRV had a REALLY smooth and fluid sound up until he started to use JCM 800's in the late 90's to get the buzz fest beehive in his cabinet.

Stevie died in 1990...he wasn't ALIVE to see the 90's PERIOD, let alone the late 90's

 

[Dave]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

I just love a clean/moderately driven Deluxe Reverb.

 

[Hot _Grits]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

I love tweed, blonde and brownface era fenders, clean or dirty. There's something about the thicker midrange response of those amps that makes them cut through any mix yet still sound warm and pleasant to the ear.

I don't dislike BF fenders, but I find the weaker midrange a bit thin for my tastes and shrill in a live situation. Nice with humbuckers, though.

 

[Quencho092]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

Stevie died in 1990...he wasn't ALIVE to see the 90's PERIOD, let alone the late 90's

TYPO!!! MY bad, i meant 80's. I've seen the Austin city limits episode too many times to screw up like that! The concert was in 89.

 

[Quencho092]

Re: Tweed vs Blackface

I'm not sure of the technical reason, but he said that the Tweed Circuit is Similar to a plexi circuit, and it's hard to get the circuit to balance when a reverb circuit is added. That's why Plexis and Tweeds really don't use reverb. I think modern amps can be made to work with reverb, which is why the new Vox's, Blues Devilles, and DSL's have reverb. One of the benefits of printed circuit boards.

What about blonde fenders? Are the blonde fenders closer in tone and circuit to blacks or tweeds, and if they're close enough to a blackface, would it be possible to throw in a reverb?