'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

[zionstrat]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

all of my comments were pretty generic and now that I see you are talking about Seths, I personally, would be less likely to recommend parallel or spin.

The reason is that in my mind, Seths are relatively low output and very balanced pups.

In my mind the primary reason for these mods is to get a cleaner low output sound out of hotter pups. I'm not sure that reducing a Seth would be all that great...

Would be nice to hear from others who have modified Seths.

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[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

I guess I just want the option, coz.... y'know.... [emoji4]

I could always add push/pull pots for parallel, and worst case never use them


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[justFred]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

I guess I just want the option, coz.... y'know.... [emoji4]

I could always add push/pull pots for parallel, and worst case never use them


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buy and install JP wiring like AlexR suggested...ya get a broad introduction to the most wiring options...it isn't difficult and the ready made wiring harnesses are not expensive...

 

[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

buy and install JP wiring like AlexR suggested...ya get a broad introduction to the most wiring options...it isn't difficult and the ready made wiring harnesses are not expensive...

Good idea... will this still work if I get TBX tone pots though?

 

[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Actually, looking at it, the only option I would really need is to switch each pickup between series and parallel. I could do this with volumes push/pulls, and then just have two independent TBX controls.

On that note (boom boom) I noticed some people discussing modding a normal tone pot to the be a bass cut instead. This is more applicable to me as boom can be a problem with my rig (although seths might fix that - can't waaaaiiiittt). Perhaps I could have:

2 x volume, each p/p to switch pup between serial/parallel
2 x tone, eah that p/p between bass cut and treble cut
OR
1 x treble cut (b)
1 x bass cut

 

[justFred]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

hate to be the bearer of bad news but if you are like most of us you will never know what you need until you have tried everything...even BB King said he was always searching for his tone, he would know when he found it, it would be like going home...don't think he ever said that he had found it...

 

[Clint 55]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Yeah just keep fiddling, it's fun.

 

[zionstrat]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Actually, looking at it, the only option I would really need is to switch each pickup between series and parallel. I could do this with volumes push/pulls, and then just have two independent TBX controls.

On that note (boom boom) I noticed some people discussing modding a normal tone pot to the be a bass cut instead. This is more applicable to me as boom can be a problem with my rig (although seths might fix that - can't waaaaiiiittt). Perhaps I could have:

2 x volume, each p/p to switch pup between serial/parallel
2 x tone, eah that p/p between bass cut and treble cut
OR
1 x treble cut (b)
1 x bass cut

2 x volume, each p/p to switch pup between serial/parallel

2 x tone, eah that p/p between bass cut and treble cut

Putting a basscut on a push pull is a great way to thin out a fat guitar...

Not clear on treble cut... How would this differ from regular tone roll off?

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[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Not clear on treble cut... How would this differ from regular tone roll off?

I mean just a standard tone roll off

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

I'd use the triple shot but it costs almost as much as a pickup!!!


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Consider that doing JP wiring will take time, frustration and troubleshooting. Sometimes just ponying up the money and getting down to the playing part is worth the price of admission, particularly since you don’t know which of these sounds you really need or will use long term. Using triple shots to figure out what settings are useful, then going back and hardwiring just the ones you need into a stronger, lean and lasting wiring harness would not be a bad idea. I say this having hand wired the full 6-switch JP harness in two of my guitars before.

 

[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Advice heeded. I have ordered some triple shots for a set of 4 conductor Seths [emoji106]


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[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

While I'm buying stuff.... Is it worth replacing my 1996 pots? Never really had a problem with them but I've heard it makes a difference.... Myth or Magic?


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[AlexR]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Replacing pots does nothing, as in there is nothing tonal in a better pot vs a cheaper one.

Values do shift the tone a bit, tone pots give you more range as you increase the value. Volume pots open out the pickup as you increase value.
Of course taper makes for speedier/slower changes as you twist the knobs.

 

[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Ok thanks for that, saved an even bigger hole in my pocket! Good to know. I have also learned that caps (brand/type) make no difference because they're not even in the signal chain.


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[AlexR]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Caps filter out signal. I can't see why on earth people giving such crap advice can't figure out that what is filtered out is removed from the signal........meaning it is very much part of the signal chain.

 

[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

As I understand it, only the value really matters?


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[TeaAt5]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Oh god, just been doing some reading...... Now I have to pick caps! [emoji51]


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[Chistopher]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

As I understand it, only the value really matters?


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Yup.

 

[Joey Voltage]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

2 x volume, each p/p to switch pup between serial/parallel

2 x tone, eah that p/p between bass cut and treble cut

Putting a basscut on a push pull is a great way to thin out a fat guitar...

Not clear on treble cut... How would this differ from regular tone roll off?

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Treble cut will just act like a first order low pass filter whereas the typical tone control shifts the resonance frequency of the pickup.

 

[Joey Voltage]

Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

Replacing pots does nothing, as in there is nothing tonal in a better pot vs a cheaper one.

Values do shift the tone a bit, tone pots give you more range as you increase the value. Volume pots open out the pickup as you increase value.
Of course taper makes for speedier/slower changes as you twist the knobs.

I mean not exactly true as a sweeping statement, any resistive element has properties that can effect things, but this is more due to application than anything. In a guitar, you won’t likely come across these.

As I understand it, only the value really matters?


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There are applications where it does matter, but a guitar is not one of them.