'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

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You can always go with the game changer, and even midi automate your guitarwith it. That would give you everything.
 
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I like the idea of the bolt-on frequency selector, however in practice I think I only need a treble cut on the bridge and a bass cut on the neck. Right now I'd be happy if I could just wire a cap a different way for the neck.


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You can always go with the game changer, and even midi automate your guitarwith it. That would give you everything.

Well at some point I have to get back to actually practicing! Once I close the lid on this project it’s not coming open again... I’m going to stick with what I’ve got and be happy
 
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I used to want as many options as I could muster.

my superstrats HAD to be able to do it all.

I am older and wiser now. and happier for it.

I like my sss strats with a simple bridge on switch, tone to the bridge pu.

my 2 humbucker strat types have the Ibanez 5 way with positions 2 and 4 as neck pu in parallel and both inner coils parallel.

my les paul type esp eclipses are standard 3 way switched, but I would like to split at least one to single coils.

IMO there is a reason you dont see a lot of weird switching standard on guitars. not very many uses.
 
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Yep, I've come to that conclusion myself. The only options I am going for are switching the humbuckers to parallel (instead of coil tapping), and I want to make the neck tone control a bass roll-off instead of a treble roll-off.


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Re: 'Ultimate' mad professor wiring?

I used to want as many options as I could muster.

my superstrats HAD to be able to do it all.

I am older and wiser now. and happier for it.

I like my sss strats with a simple bridge on switch, tone to the bridge pu.

my 2 humbucker strat types have the Ibanez 5 way with positions 2 and 4 as neck pu in parallel and both inner coils parallel.

my les paul type esp eclipses are standard 3 way switched, but I would like to split at least one to single coils.

IMO there is a reason you dont see a lot of weird switching standard on guitars. not very many uses.
Juanhanglo, its great that you experimented to find what you like... Many of our clients start with plans that are too complex for the stage, so we try to evolve mods... Ie you liked this spin a split setting, lets lock it down with a trim pot and a switch.

And as tastes and rigs evolve, those who have experimented in the past are the ones who tend to focus in on mods that solve specific issues..


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Yep, I've come to that conclusion myself. The only options I am going for are switching the humbuckers to parallel (instead of coil tapping), and I want to make the neck tone control a bass roll-off instead of a treble roll-off.


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You could just hardwire a cap in series with the neck, because the thickness of the neck pickup isn't a setting that gets changed too often. The Seth neck model isn't overly bass heavy either, so a variable bass cut might not be the best use of a pot.
 
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Thanks Christopher... any suggestions on what a fella could do with a spare pot? [emoji4]


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So you want two volume each with series/parallel, and then a tone for the bridge? If you wanted to be a bit radical, you could replace the toggle switch with a kill switch or a varitone switch, then move the toggle switch to where the extra pot was supposed to go. You don't have to move the switch, I just think its cooler that way.
 
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Thanks Christopher... any suggestions on what a fella could do with a spare pot? [emoji4]


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Tons. You could make the bass roll off somewhat variable with it. You could wire it as a variable treble shelving filter. If you wanted to go active you could use it as part of a variable capacitor, and have a tone control that will completely revoice any pickup you run through it etc... the list goes on.
 
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Replacing pots does nothing, as in there is nothing tonal in a better pot vs a cheaper one.

And both will benefit from a quick squirt of Caig Labs Deoxit. Everyone who messes with guitars should have a meter and some Deoxit.

As I understand it, only the value really matters?

Sorta. But keep in mind that "cheap" log pots aren't really logarithmic. They're two linear profiles welded together in the middle. A good quality log pot will be a true log taper throughout its range.
 
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I definitely concur about having zillions of options- too much redundancy to be worth the complexity IMO. I went through a phase back in the 70s where I wanted as much flexibility as possible, and like others here I found that when it came to actual playing I didn't use most of the possibilities. For me, it's nice to have a cleaner option and OOP but beyond that there wasn't much practical advantage to be had.

If it were my guitar, I'd add series/parallel switching for the neck pickup and use spin/split on the 59/C which splits very well indeed. Parallel neck tones are handy, and it's nice to be able to have shades of split, as opposed to just switching it in or out. I think if you had parallel as an option you might not need a separate bass cut cap for the Seth- but you could always get a push-pull for the extra pot (whatever its final function will be) and use that to switch the series cap in or out.

And I'd add a phase switch, in the right spot OOP can be a perfect tone option and I've sometimes missed it on my LPs, none of which have one.

Master TBX tone control seems like a perfect idea for this instance, where the OP already uses bass-cut sometimes.

I prefer 50s wiring because it stays more transparent when you roll back the volumes, and in a situation where the Op says he mostly runs fully open the tone pot interaction shouldn't be much of a concern.

As for a blend pot, as neat & convenient as it might seem at first, it actually limits what can be done. There's a lot more flexibility to be had from dual volume knobs.

Okay, I read back thru the thread and now I realize the OP already ordered Tripleshot mounting rings. It always seemed to me they'd be a little tricky to operate on the fly but a great choice in terms of flexibility. I suspect that they'll mostly be used for parallel on the neck and split on the 59/Custom which has an awesome lead voice and splits remarkably well.

...any suggestions on what a fella could do with a spare pot? [emoji4]
I'd still want phase switching on a push-pull; a very good option to have- it offers a tone really different from all your other options. And IMO it would still be useful to have a regular tone control for the neck pickup. Rolled-off neck tone is something you can't get otherwise. Like OOP, it might be used only rarely, but when it's called for nothing else will hit that same spot.

So I'd use a push-pull pot for bass-cut cap on/off and regular tone control on the neck pickup, and a push-pull on the neck volume pot for out-of-phase. Between that and the Tripleshots you'll have access to a pretty broad palette of sounds.

If you wanted to go further, you could use a third push-pull for a bass-cut cap on the bridge pickup too. Not something I'd use a lot myself, but it hinges on your use of the EQ - do you ever kick that in for the bridge pickup? If so, this might be worth considering.

Just brainstorming ideas here, but that's my perspective. One of the best things about this forum is that you can get dozens of suggestions and then pick what suits you best. Best of luck with the project! Let us know what you end up with. Bet it's going to be great.
 
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Just brainstorming ideas here, but that's my perspective. One of the best things about this forum is that you can get dozens of suggestions and then pick what suits you best.

One of the best things about this forum is benefitting from so much experience and so many different perspectives - I feel like I'm at a conference!

At this stage, I have settled on 4-conductor Seth set (which I'm SUPER excited about!!!) and some triple shots. I will use the triple shots to experiment and find sounds that I like and will use, then (as someone above suggested) I can always hard wire the useful options into pots/switches. However, since I am on a budget and was considering getting a local pro to wire the pups/controls for me, I was hoping to settle on a pot scheme and get him to wire it all up at the same time. I suppose once I get my new pups (!!!!!) I will be busy just getting to know my new tone - especially if I start actually using the stock pots rather than having them all full open all the time.

I LOVE the idea of using a push-pull to switch between treble and bass cut! Simple, effective, and easy to mod later down the track.

Sigh.... so many cool options....
 
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Sigh.... so many cool options....
Enjoy the ride and take your time- when you look back you will have a lot of your own knowledge to share and that's part of the fun-

And really like the direction you are going- you will have a lot of opinions after these mods!
 
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So my pickups are here, and the triple shots should arrive within a few days. As soon as they come I want to get my guitar tech to install them, so it's time to settle on a control scheme. Here's what I'm thinking:

- 50s wiring, with switch in cavity to revert to modern
- standard bridge and neck volume (any ideas for p/p here?)
- bridge tone, p/p for OOP
- neck tone, p/p for bass rolloff

The bass rolloff I'd use is: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?330264-Short-bass-roll-off-contour-video

By using a p/p on the neck tone, it means I can't have treble AND bass rolloff, which actually sounds kinda interesting...
 
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TeaAt5- Its great to hear that you are moving forward and have explored so many options- It's great to experiment to find what works for you and I especially like your bass rolloff thinking;)
 
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