UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
If I was a Strat guy, I'd jump on UOA5's
If I was a Strat guy, I'd jump on UOA5's
treyhaislip
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Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
I just bought a set and will try them out in a spare Fender Fat 50 bridge pickup.
I just bought a set and will try them out in a spare Fender Fat 50 bridge pickup.
eclecticsynergy
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Had no idea they even existed. Sounds intriguing; I've become a pretty big fan of UA5 bar mags. Never swapped poles in a singlecoil though. I've seen recommendations against it because of possible coil damage. Thought about practicing on a cheap Chinese pickup, but it turns out the ones I've got don't have magpoles, only slugs with a ceramic bar mag underneath.
Coupla questions for those who have done this:
Is it as simple as pushing the original ones out the bottom and pressing the new ones in?
How much force is needed? Does this vary from one pickup to another?
And does it require finesse?
Had no idea they even existed. Sounds intriguing; I've become a pretty big fan of UA5 bar mags. Never swapped poles in a singlecoil though. I've seen recommendations against it because of possible coil damage. Thought about practicing on a cheap Chinese pickup, but it turns out the ones I've got don't have magpoles, only slugs with a ceramic bar mag underneath.
Coupla questions for those who have done this:
Is it as simple as pushing the original ones out the bottom and pressing the new ones in?
How much force is needed? Does this vary from one pickup to another?
And does it require finesse?
idsnowdog
Imperator of Indignation
Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
Little force. Just a light tap to get it started and then push it through.
If the pickup uses a molded bobbin where the center of the pickup is solid there's little danger in harming the coil.
If the pickup only has a vintage bottom and top/bottom fiber plate with the coil wound around the magnets there's some chance you will damage the pickup. However most modern single coils are wound around a molded bobbin.
Vintage
Modern molded bobbin.
Yes I just push them out with a small screwdriver.
Little force. Just a light tap to get it started and then push it through.
If the pickup uses a molded bobbin where the center of the pickup is solid there's little danger in harming the coil.
If the pickup only has a vintage bottom and top/bottom fiber plate with the coil wound around the magnets there's some chance you will damage the pickup. However most modern single coils are wound around a molded bobbin.
Vintage
Modern molded bobbin.
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treyhaislip
Well-known member
Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
Thank you for the very good info!
Yes I just push them out with a small screwdriver.
Little force. Just a light tap to get it started and then push it through.
If the pickup uses a molded bobbin where the center of the pickup is solid there's little danger in harming the coil.
If the pickup only has a vintage bottom and top/bottom fiber plate with the coil wound around the magnets there's some chance you will damage the pickup. However most modern single coils are wound around a molded bobbin.
Vintage
Modern molded bobbin.
Thank you for the very good info!
eclecticsynergy
Well-known member
Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
Yah- thanks, snowdog!
I wonder if anybody makes A8 rods, maybe for beefing up a bridge pickup... I guess if it were a viable option someone probably would've tried it already?
Yah- thanks, snowdog!
I wonder if anybody makes A8 rods, maybe for beefing up a bridge pickup... I guess if it were a viable option someone probably would've tried it already?
treyhaislip
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idsnowdog
Imperator of Indignation
Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
I have heard some people voice concern that Alnico 8 might have too much string pull, but I would think as long as the pickup uses flat poles it should be OK. If they can make decent sounding Neodymium pickups they should be able to do Alnico 8.
I have heard some people voice concern that Alnico 8 might have too much string pull, but I would think as long as the pickup uses flat poles it should be OK. If they can make decent sounding Neodymium pickups they should be able to do Alnico 8.
dotsdad
New member
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You can easily swap mags on an American standard pickup with the plastic bobbins. I think you will destroy the fat 50s doing this though. Like the other posters mentioned, the wire rouches the magnets on the vintsge style pickups, whereas modern ones have plastic between magnet and wire.
You can easily swap mags on an American standard pickup with the plastic bobbins. I think you will destroy the fat 50s doing this though. Like the other posters mentioned, the wire rouches the magnets on the vintsge style pickups, whereas modern ones have plastic between magnet and wire.
firebirdguy72
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http://www.tone-kraft.com/alnico-8-rod-magnets/
Used them for a couple tele pickups for a few forum bros. They haven't given me the full skinny on them yet, but have said they do like them. I didn't have a tele at the time so I had no way to test for myself. Smart right? I agree that they would probably be best served for a beefed up bridge pup. I imagine the string pull would be grounds for some serious stratisis if used in the neck. I believe Zhang has a few A8 strat pups for sale on his site. As does another winder here. Unfortunately I cannot remember his username or website.
http://www.tone-kraft.com/alnico-8-rod-magnets/
Used them for a couple tele pickups for a few forum bros. They haven't given me the full skinny on them yet, but have said they do like them. I didn't have a tele at the time so I had no way to test for myself. Smart right? I agree that they would probably be best served for a beefed up bridge pup. I imagine the string pull would be grounds for some serious stratisis if used in the neck. I believe Zhang has a few A8 strat pups for sale on his site. As does another winder here. Unfortunately I cannot remember his username or website.
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Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
Yep, Zhangbucker has an 8-bird strat pickup. According to the blurb it sounds a bit like a Firebird bridge pickup......at least the way David winds it.
http://www.zhangbucker.com/the-8-bird.html
Yep, Zhangbucker has an 8-bird strat pickup. According to the blurb it sounds a bit like a Firebird bridge pickup......at least the way David winds it.
http://www.zhangbucker.com/the-8-bird.html
treyhaislip
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Zhangliqun
Questionologist
Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
I have them and made a Strat bridge pu with it. Strangely enough it sounds like a Firebird pickup, so I call it the 8-Bird.
I have them and made a Strat bridge pu with it. Strangely enough it sounds like a Firebird pickup, so I call it the 8-Bird.
treyhaislip
Well-known member
Re: UOA5 Strat Pole Pieces
What are you thoughts on UOA5 in a bridge pickup for Strat? Do you think its a good way to tame the somewhat icepicky/thin issues with Strat bridge pickups?
What are you thoughts on UOA5 in a bridge pickup for Strat? Do you think its a good way to tame the somewhat icepicky/thin issues with Strat bridge pickups?
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Funkfingers
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Considering that the rod magnets in a Fender style pickup are going to be arranged vertically between the bobbin plates and that their polarity can be determined by the magnetising process, what benefits do unoriented formulations offer over oriented ones?
Considering that the rod magnets in a Fender style pickup are going to be arranged vertically between the bobbin plates and that their polarity can be determined by the magnetising process, what benefits do unoriented formulations offer over oriented ones?
crusty philtrum
Vintageologist
treyhaislip
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Funkfingers
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For electric guitar pickup purposes, a rod magnet needs to have one flat end polarised North and the opposite end polarised South. Agreed?
Some magnet formulations magnetise preferrentially along one axis. For guitar pickup purposes, this should be along the length of the rod.
Unoriented formulations can be magnetised along other axes.
For Fender-style pickup applications, it is difficult to see any advantage to being able to orient the magnetic field in any direction other than vertically, along the length of the rod.
I am calling snake oil.
For electric guitar pickup purposes, a rod magnet needs to have one flat end polarised North and the opposite end polarised South. Agreed?
Some magnet formulations magnetise preferrentially along one axis. For guitar pickup purposes, this should be along the length of the rod.
Unoriented formulations can be magnetised along other axes.
For Fender-style pickup applications, it is difficult to see any advantage to being able to orient the magnetic field in any direction other than vertically, along the length of the rod.
I am calling snake oil.
