valve/tube vs. solid state -- 10 years later - add hybrid

[maug2122]

I have two 12ax7 tubes inside my Digitech 2112 SGS in stereo , going into two VHT Valvulators with a 12ax7 tube each before going into my power amps .
It feels, plays and responds like my old Tube amps .

 

[Mincer]

I have two 12ax7 tubes inside my Digitech 2112 SGS in stereo , going into two VHT Valvulators with a 12ax7 tube each before going into my power amps .
It feels, plays and responds like my old Tube amps .

You need a Powerstage 700!

 

[Demanic]

I've been running hybrid for decades.

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[treyhaislip]

The Hybrid & Solid State stuff sounds very good--continuing to improve--but neither have made me change Tube amp as my preference.

I do really enjoy my setup with a Yamaha THR100HD that is insanely easier to transport than two 100 watt tube heads. It feels/responds more like a tube amp than most solid states out there, IMO. But at the end of the day, I still prefer my Fender Tubes.

 

[Demanic]

Picked this up about 7 years ago. Digital front into two 12AX7's into four 5881's.
The Swiss Army Knife of amps.
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[El Dunco]

I have two 12ax7 tubes inside my Digitech 2112 SGS in stereo , going into two VHT Valvulators with a 12ax7 tube each before going into my power amps .
It feels, plays and responds like my old Tube amps .

POWERBLOCKS! I still use mine. They were really ahead of their time, all the goodies are on the back. There’s just no reason to lug so much freight around to shows when something so small and light allows me to get a perfectly useable and audible sound. Can you talk me with how you’ve got them set up there? I don’t think I’ve seen them hooked up that way before. Are they modded in any way?

As for the original question, I don’t care. Even from a studio production standpoint, I care about what best creates the sound that serves the song. I don’t care what’s inside. My band’s second album has one of our more distinctive and most complimented (here, webzines, even actual published magazines) guitar sounds and that mostly came from a completely solid state, one off Randall I haven’t seen anyone else own or talk about.

I was banging my head against the wall fighting to get the sound I wanted with all kinds of all tube heads, your classic industry standard metal guitar speakers, fancy tube preamps and EQs and so on and none of it was doing it for me. Then I pulled out that wooly, shaggy carpet covered old SS head into much less talked about speakers and bam! The sound was there immediately. Lately I can get the sounds I want with what I have very easily, I can blend amps together for new sounds without much of a struggle, including high wattage, all tube monsters (example in my tri-amping thread in this sub) but it has more to do with their voicings and knowing how to better play to their strengths than that they have tubes in them and that total sleeper of an SS amp still adds the secret sauce sometimes.

 

[NegativeEase]

The new IR, digital and solid state stuff sounds really great... I have used it for sure.

but I still record with my Deluxe more than any other amp or IR or anything

-it's got some mojo standing in front of it that hasn't been achieved......yet.

 

[some_dude]

Necro-bump, but it was interesting to read the old comments from 6 years ago and comparing them to what actually happened.

 

[maug2122]

You need a Powerstage 700!

The VHT Valvulators have two outputs, one for the two Crate Power Blocks (150 watts on stage, each ) and two Power Stage 700's for the audience .

Dude, you spook me, that was my plan all along !!!! ..... I swear Mincer, you must have ESP !!!!!

 

[maug2122]

POWERBLOCKS! I still use mine. They were really ahead of their time, all the goodies are on the back. There’s just no reason to lug so much freight around to shows when something so small and light allows me to get a perfectly useable and audible sound. Can you talk me with how you’ve got them set up there? I don’t think I’ve seen them hooked up that way before. Are they modded in any way?

As for the original question, I don’t care. Even from a studio production standpoint, I care about what best creates the sound that serves the song. I don’t care what’s inside. My band’s second album has one of our more distinctive and most complimented (here, webzines, even actual published magazines) guitar sounds and that mostly came from a completely solid state, one off Randall I haven’t seen anyone else own or talk about.

I was banging my head against the wall fighting to get the sound I wanted with all kinds of all tube heads, your classic industry standard metal guitar speakers, fancy tube preamps and EQs and so on and none of it was doing it for me. Then I pulled out that wooly, shaggy carpet covered old SS head into much less talked about speakers and bam! The sound was there immediately. Lately I can get the sounds I want with what I have very easily, I can blend amps together for new sounds without much of a struggle, including high wattage, all tube monsters (example in my tri-amping thread in this sub) but it has more to do with their voicings and knowing how to better play to their strengths than that they have tubes in them and that total sleeper of an SS amp still adds the secret sauce sometimes.

My ancient Digitech 2112 SGS has two 12ax7 tubes in it, I programmed the unit to be in stereo going into two VHT Valvulators 1's, which has one 12ax7 each and finally in the Create Power Blocks.

Later, I plan on getting two Seymour Duncan Power Stage 700's in conjunction with my CPB 's .

Beer$, good luck with your music and your band.
I used to be in a touring band, now I settled down .... kids, house .... you know how that goes, good luck out there !!!!

 

[Mincer]

The VHT Valvulators have two outputs, one for the two Crate Power Blocks (150 watts on stage, each ) and two Power Stage 700's for the audience .

Dude, you spook me, that was my plan all along !!!! ..... I swear Mincer, you must have ESP !!!!!

I want a new pic when you get 'em!

 

[maug2122]

I want a new pic when you get 'em!

Sure :headbang:.

 

[El Dunco]

My ancient Digitech 2112 SGS has two 12ax7 tubes in it, I programmed the unit to be in stereo going into two VHT Valvulators 1's, which has one 12ax7 each and finally in the Create Power Blocks.

Later, I plan on getting two Seymour Duncan Power Stage 700's in conjunction with my CPB 's .

Beer$, good luck with your music and your band.
I used to be in a touring band, now I settled down .... kids, house .... you know how that goes, good luck out there !!!!

I’m interested that you plug them directly in the front end of the PBs. I use the back, apparently the cab sim runs at all times without some jury-rigging. Thankyou, it’s going well.

 

[Mincer]

I used a Digitech 2120 for awhile, and I replaced that with a Roland GP-100, which I really liked, especially for really weird sounds. Then it was replaced with a Fractal, but I'd love to try the old Digitech stuff again.

 

[maug2122]

I used a Digitech 2120 for awhile, and I replaced that with a Roland GP-100, which I really liked, especially for really weird sounds. Then it was replaced with a Fractal, but I'd love to try the old Digitech stuff again.

If you still have the two S Disk chips in the 2120, like a 2112 .
I love the seemless transition between the programs / patches, it like a studio edit .
I run mine in stereo and I have it set for the fading other patch to fade slowly into the left side of the stereo field.
The icing on the cake is adding a 6 band parametric Eq at the of the program .

 

[Mincer]

Thing was is that I was searching for not just conventional guitar sounds, but stuff that didn't sound like a guitar at all. I used it in my guitar synth and looping rig. I did think the conventional guitar sounds were very good...there were just some limitations with reverb and delay times that made me end up selling it (from what I remember).