Van Halen franky pickup: mystery solved?
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Re: Van Halen franky pickup: mystery solved?
the replica franky pickup sound very close to an ibanez super 70 pickup,check this out...
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=22540
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the replica franky pickup sound very close to an ibanez super 70 pickup,check this out...
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=22540
john
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Re: Van Halen franky pickup: mystery solved?
All this worry about the pup is just sooooooo misguided. It's like asking "What strat was Clapton using?!?!?!?!?"
Clapton played the strat from the store. Ed used the pup that was there/worked. Let it go...Neither of them cared - and neither should you.
All this worry about the pup is just sooooooo misguided. It's like asking "What strat was Clapton using?!?!?!?!?"
Clapton played the strat from the store. Ed used the pup that was there/worked. Let it go...Neither of them cared - and neither should you.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Yep!!^+1
And besides......who can really say they know????
Mixed guitars and the pure rigsound is two very different things!
The latter usually being boomy and hard to control, nasty and hard on the ears.
Yep!!^+1
And besides......who can really say they know????
Mixed guitars and the pure rigsound is two very different things!
The latter usually being boomy and hard to control, nasty and hard on the ears.
rumbleinbriton
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Re: Van Halen franky pickup: mystery solved?
All this worry about the pup is just sooooooo misguided.
Then why are we hanging out in a forum dedicated to pickups - which is just one part of an electric guitar? Why does SD sell so many variations of humbucker? Why not just one or two?
Ed used the pup that was there/worked.
EVH was constantly tweaking his guitars and pickups! If Ed had been born 30 years later, he'd probably be hanging in this very forum soaking up as much detailed info as possible.
All this worry about the pup is just sooooooo misguided.
Then why are we hanging out in a forum dedicated to pickups - which is just one part of an electric guitar? Why does SD sell so many variations of humbucker? Why not just one or two?
Ed used the pup that was there/worked.
EVH was constantly tweaking his guitars and pickups! If Ed had been born 30 years later, he'd probably be hanging in this very forum soaking up as much detailed info as possible.
Christopher Caruana
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+1 on that. Ed said himself in an interview "I'm a tone freak, but i use my ears, I don't even know what pickups are in my guitars sometimes." When Ed built his frankie, he did NOT know what the hell he was doing. He said it himself (in the same interview as above) "The only reason i only had one pickup in my guitar is because i couldnt remember how to wire the rest of the s**t up. I put the one pickup in there, and just tried different wires on the volume pot until i got a sound." Seriously, the man has ruined more guitars through the years than you or i could even imagine. I mean he actually took a hammer to the origional frets on his fender (the pre-frankie) because he wanted the frets to be lower! oh and ed was not the first one have the "brown" tone, he called alex's snare drum the "brown" tone and it just got connected with his guitar playing later by other people. Ed himself said he was not totally happy with his tone on VH1. thats why he has gone from old marshall plexi's and P.A.F. humbuckers to his high gain amps (his 5150 series) to hotter and hotter pickups over the years first with the Dimarzio distortion in his ibanez destroyer (during women and children first), the pickup that would later be known as the custom custom, in his kramer 5150 (A2 mag, 14K output), his EBMM series had Alnico V mags, and finally his Peavey wolfgang series had ceramic mags in the pups and they read about 16K. The sound Ed is trying to come with in his head is always changing and he is always adapting to come up with that sound. He himself does not 100% even know what sound he wants, or he would not have destroyed thousands of guitars and gone through thousands of amps over the years.
+1 on that. Ed said himself in an interview "I'm a tone freak, but i use my ears, I don't even know what pickups are in my guitars sometimes." When Ed built his frankie, he did NOT know what the hell he was doing. He said it himself (in the same interview as above) "The only reason i only had one pickup in my guitar is because i couldnt remember how to wire the rest of the s**t up. I put the one pickup in there, and just tried different wires on the volume pot until i got a sound." Seriously, the man has ruined more guitars through the years than you or i could even imagine. I mean he actually took a hammer to the origional frets on his fender (the pre-frankie) because he wanted the frets to be lower! oh and ed was not the first one have the "brown" tone, he called alex's snare drum the "brown" tone and it just got connected with his guitar playing later by other people. Ed himself said he was not totally happy with his tone on VH1. thats why he has gone from old marshall plexi's and P.A.F. humbuckers to his high gain amps (his 5150 series) to hotter and hotter pickups over the years first with the Dimarzio distortion in his ibanez destroyer (during women and children first), the pickup that would later be known as the custom custom, in his kramer 5150 (A2 mag, 14K output), his EBMM series had Alnico V mags, and finally his Peavey wolfgang series had ceramic mags in the pups and they read about 16K. The sound Ed is trying to come with in his head is always changing and he is always adapting to come up with that sound. He himself does not 100% even know what sound he wants, or he would not have destroyed thousands of guitars and gone through thousands of amps over the years.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Van Halen franky pickup: mystery solved?
As nifty as forums are....they usually do not have that much to offer....results only matters in a real enviroment...not speculative stuff like here.
This place is good for swapping ideas and such....but to make it work...play with a band, and it will cost you...no two ways around it!
Nah....a type like him...would be hands on...and trying it in a band.....
As nifty as forums are....they usually do not have that much to offer....results only matters in a real enviroment...not speculative stuff like here.
This place is good for swapping ideas and such....but to make it work...play with a band, and it will cost you...no two ways around it!
ParameterMan
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To all ye naysayers: You're missing the point. Detective work is fun, and unsolved mysteries are very tempting. The comparison to someone like Clapton is pointless. Eddie got a sound out of his guitar on VH1 that hadn't been heard before, Clapton didn't. We're also not trying to get the sound that Eddie was hearing in his head- we're trying to replicate something he stumbled across in the course of his experimentation. It also has no bearing that he didn't know what he was doing. The combination was magical, and we'd like to find out what he was using.
This same process was responsible for the Pearly Gates set. That guitar has an amazing sound, and multiple pickup makers decided they had to get that sound. Anyone using those pickups benefits, even though they aren't trying to sound like Billy Gibbons.
To all ye naysayers: You're missing the point. Detective work is fun, and unsolved mysteries are very tempting. The comparison to someone like Clapton is pointless. Eddie got a sound out of his guitar on VH1 that hadn't been heard before, Clapton didn't. We're also not trying to get the sound that Eddie was hearing in his head- we're trying to replicate something he stumbled across in the course of his experimentation. It also has no bearing that he didn't know what he was doing. The combination was magical, and we'd like to find out what he was using.
This same process was responsible for the Pearly Gates set. That guitar has an amazing sound, and multiple pickup makers decided they had to get that sound. Anyone using those pickups benefits, even though they aren't trying to sound like Billy Gibbons.
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While I love the intrigue and the detective work involved in trying to deduce what he used, I think its more entertaining to hear the commentary from the pup builders. I get that in Seymour's case he is protecting his IP and contractual agreements. At the same time, they are as guarded and secretive as EVH ever was. Its almost scary how in a sense history is repeating itself in that regard.
While I love the intrigue and the detective work involved in trying to deduce what he used, I think its more entertaining to hear the commentary from the pup builders. I get that in Seymour's case he is protecting his IP and contractual agreements. At the same time, they are as guarded and secretive as EVH ever was. Its almost scary how in a sense history is repeating itself in that regard.
rumbleinbriton
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To all ye naysayers:
The irony to the naysaying is that the counter-arguments are more along the lines of "it's pointless to research this" instead of putting up an argument against a Mighty Mite in favor of the elusive "PAF from a 335" we've being hearing about for years.
Would anyone here like to add anything about those 70's era Mighty Mite humbuckers, to add to the discussion?
To all ye naysayers:
The irony to the naysaying is that the counter-arguments are more along the lines of "it's pointless to research this" instead of putting up an argument against a Mighty Mite in favor of the elusive "PAF from a 335" we've being hearing about for years.
Would anyone here like to add anything about those 70's era Mighty Mite humbuckers, to add to the discussion?
Re: Van Halen franky pickup: mystery solved?
A smits ultra 7T is the closest i have found
http://smitspickups.com/
Ultra 7T (bridge)
output-standard PAF, 8k ohms(+/-.2k)
magnet- alnico 8
string spacing- 1-15/16ths" (49mm) or 2-1/16ths" (53mm)
2 conductor only
price- $100
This rippin' new pickup is based on the 1970's Ibanez Super 70 model that is burning up the humbucker market. Along with certain signature sounds from 70's recordings, this pickup brings it's own distinct, powerful tone and places it in your hands. With the trademark PAF output/alnico 8 magnet combination, we have tweaked some of the specs to maximize the pickups potential. With juicy mids and alnico clarity, the Ultra 7T will change the way you hear guitar pickups.
>videos & soundclips
A smits ultra 7T is the closest i have found
http://smitspickups.com/
Ultra 7T (bridge)
output-standard PAF, 8k ohms(+/-.2k)
magnet- alnico 8
string spacing- 1-15/16ths" (49mm) or 2-1/16ths" (53mm)
2 conductor only
price- $100
This rippin' new pickup is based on the 1970's Ibanez Super 70 model that is burning up the humbucker market. Along with certain signature sounds from 70's recordings, this pickup brings it's own distinct, powerful tone and places it in your hands. With the trademark PAF output/alnico 8 magnet combination, we have tweaked some of the specs to maximize the pickups potential. With juicy mids and alnico clarity, the Ultra 7T will change the way you hear guitar pickups.
>videos & soundclips
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