Vox AC-30 Lovers
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
VOX AC-30 is still not A but a hot A/B.
VOX AC-30 is still not A but a hot A/B.
JeffB
Let it B
Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Not me, never.
I honestly have never seen/head the allure. I've never thought the Vox sound was all that spectacular. Fender does better cleans, marshall does better grind. I can appreciate others liking that tone but I've no use for it personally...it's like drinking a glassful of maple syrup to me...sickly sweet. IF I want jangly british cleans I'll go Hi-watt.
Guitar Toad said:
Not me, never.
I honestly have never seen/head the allure. I've never thought the Vox sound was all that spectacular. Fender does better cleans, marshall does better grind. I can appreciate others liking that tone but I've no use for it personally...it's like drinking a glassful of maple syrup to me...sickly sweet. IF I want jangly british cleans I'll go Hi-watt.
Hot _Grits
Buttery Toneologist
Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
yeah, I agree with you about the progressive linkage 6V6/EL84 together thing on the Blue Angel. I used to run it in that mode to get a bit more clean headroom at certain gigs, but it wasn't my favored setup.
Dan Hawkins of The Darkness runs AC30s with Plexis and sounds outstanding. His brother's triple recto tone sounds like background interference in comparison.
OlinMusic said:
yeah, I agree with you about the progressive linkage 6V6/EL84 together thing on the Blue Angel. I used to run it in that mode to get a bit more clean headroom at certain gigs, but it wasn't my favored setup.
Dan Hawkins of The Darkness runs AC30s with Plexis and sounds outstanding. His brother's triple recto tone sounds like background interference in comparison.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Yeah some of them are just that
Guitar Toad
Toadily Stratologist
Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
One question that didn't get answered, unless I missed it: Was the AC-30 the first EL-84 amp or was Marshall the first to use EL-84's in a guitar amp?
EDIT: In terms of guitar amps: Is class A vs Class B an over-rated argument? Class A sure seems to be a lot harder on tubes than Class B.
One question that didn't get answered, unless I missed it: Was the AC-30 the first EL-84 amp or was Marshall the first to use EL-84's in a guitar amp?
EDIT: In terms of guitar amps: Is class A vs Class B an over-rated argument? Class A sure seems to be a lot harder on tubes than Class B.
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Nopes some old stuff from the 50's used a single one in the output.
Nopes some old stuff from the 50's used a single one in the output.
Uncle Unborn
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Changing tubes in an old AC30 is a real mess... I can't understand why Vox chose to do it that way. The tubes are placed behind the chassis, so you practically have to take out the whole stuffing (expect for the speakers and reverb tank). Idiotic.
Scott_F said:
Changing tubes in an old AC30 is a real mess... I can't understand why Vox chose to do it that way. The tubes are placed behind the chassis, so you practically have to take out the whole stuffing (expect for the speakers and reverb tank). Idiotic.
CapoFirstFret
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
the new ones are the same way
Uncle Unborn said:
the new ones are the same way
Ocifer
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Different strokes for different folks. I've always really liked that Vox sound. The cleans are amazing, and when pushed, I'd take the OD Vox sound over a Fender any day.
As Olin said, Marshalls are different beast altogether. I've always been slightly dissapointed by Marshalls (stacks, combos) whenever I try them in stores. I love the Marshall tones I've heard others get, but I don't think I'll ever own one. It's like that whole 'guitar having mojo' deal. To me, Vox and Fender amps are more responsive, and enjoyable to play. If I go heavy-disto styles, I'd much prefer something like a Mesa or Engl.
And about the whole Class A or A/B thing: It's a pointless debate. Because of the nature of the term, Class A just sounds more impressive, or like it would make your amp sound better. A and A/B are just different, and both give you great sounds.
Different strokes for different folks. I've always really liked that Vox sound. The cleans are amazing, and when pushed, I'd take the OD Vox sound over a Fender any day.
As Olin said, Marshalls are different beast altogether. I've always been slightly dissapointed by Marshalls (stacks, combos) whenever I try them in stores. I love the Marshall tones I've heard others get, but I don't think I'll ever own one. It's like that whole 'guitar having mojo' deal. To me, Vox and Fender amps are more responsive, and enjoyable to play. If I go heavy-disto styles, I'd much prefer something like a Mesa or Engl.
And about the whole Class A or A/B thing: It's a pointless debate. Because of the nature of the term, Class A just sounds more impressive, or like it would make your amp sound better. A and A/B are just different, and both give you great sounds.
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Class A is actually most fun in HI-FI
Too warm and nice for guitars....well that is just me
Class A is actually most fun in HI-FI
Too warm and nice for guitars....well that is just me
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Fender amps are usually taken as clean amps and older Marshalls only sound great when you can really crank em up...Everytime I've plugged into an AC30 I've felt it was just always too bright and too jangly for my tastes,but this was at lower store volumes....Maybe it was actually a reissue AC30TB though? I've dialed in some really great sounding AC30 tones in my Vox VTH and for me it's adding a bit more low end balls and some mids to the tone...Almost Marshall like I guess the way I dial up the AC30 tones..
Ocifer said:
Fender amps are usually taken as clean amps and older Marshalls only sound great when you can really crank em up...Everytime I've plugged into an AC30 I've felt it was just always too bright and too jangly for my tastes,but this was at lower store volumes....Maybe it was actually a reissue AC30TB though? I've dialed in some really great sounding AC30 tones in my Vox VTH and for me it's adding a bit more low end balls and some mids to the tone...Almost Marshall like I guess the way I dial up the AC30 tones..
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Lewguitar
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Is that right? The AC-30 is not a cathode biased amp? I thought it was. The Matchless Chieftan and C-30 are cathode biased...I thought the Vox AC-30 was too. I know that technically a true class A amp would have only one output tube, like a Fender Champ, and that what most call class A is not true class A. But I thought the AC-30 was at least cathode biased like class A amps seem to be. Maybe I'm wrong... Lew
Rid said:
Is that right? The AC-30 is not a cathode biased amp? I thought it was. The Matchless Chieftan and C-30 are cathode biased...I thought the Vox AC-30 was too. I know that technically a true class A amp would have only one output tube, like a Fender Champ, and that what most call class A is not true class A. But I thought the AC-30 was at least cathode biased like class A amps seem to be. Maybe I'm wrong... Lew
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Thought Class A was really all about bias swing.....
Lewguitar said:
Thought Class A was really all about bias swing.....
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
And some more.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Vox AC-30 Lovers
Yep....Bias swing! :6:
Rid said:
Yep....Bias swing! :6:
