Vox AC50

jah279

jah279

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Hey guys,

My band is starting to get some bigger shows now, and my Egnater Rebel just isn't loud enough to keep up at a lot of them. The other guitarist in the band uses a Valveking (112).

We play pop rock kind of stuff, Green Day, Foo Fighters kind of stuff. As far as covers go, we range a lot. Van Halen, Good Charlotte, U2 (Vertigo, not Joshua Tree stuff). So I need an amp that is really good at doing the Green Day kind of thing, but can also branch out a bit to the covers I mentioned.

So would the Vox AC50 head suit my needs? I'd be playing it through a Valve Junior 1x12, but I'll probably upgrade to a 2x12 soon.

Would I be better off just using the Egnater through a 2x12? I'm not totally satisfied with the tone I am getting from it.

Comments, opinions...other suggestions?

Thanks a lot!
 
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Have you thought of getting a 4x12 with "better" more efficient spekers ?

A 'little' 1x12 22W Deluxe Reverb can easily hang w a 50W Marshall and 4x12 cab, with only a simple speaker upgrade !

http://www.eminence.com/guitar.asp?speaker_size=12

And if you have FOUR 102/3db drivers, you gonna blow the band away !!!
Also much cheaper than a new amp !!!!


James
 
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SlowGroove said:
Have you thought of getting a 4x12 with "better" more efficient spekers ?

A 'little' 1x12 22W Deluxe Reverb can easily hang w a 50W Marshall and 4x12 cab, with only a simple speaker upgrade !

http://www.eminence.com/guitar.asp?speaker_size=12

And if you have FOUR 102/3db drivers, you gonna blow the band away !!!
Also much cheaper than a new amp !!!!


James
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Right now I only use a 1x12, and I figured that I would just get a 2x12 when I get a new head.

Would it be worth it to get a 2x12 right now and keep the Egnater head?
 
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jah279 said:
Right now I only use a 1x12, and I figured that I would just get a 2x12 when I get a new head.

Would it be worth it to get a 2x12 right now and keep the Egnater head?
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It depends . . . as always !
I would get the bigger cab anyways, but it depends on your funds, and if you actually WANT a diff head.
I still do believe a bigger cab will the cheaper solution, IF you get good quality efficient speakers.
Do you want to get a diff amp somehere in the future ?


James
 
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SlowGroove said:
It depends . . . as always !
I would get the bigger cab anyways, but it depends on your funds, and if you actually WANT a diff head.
I still do believe a bigger cab will the cheaper solution, IF you get good quality efficient speakers.
Do you want to get a diff amp somehere in the future ?


James
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Yeah, I was planning on getting an Avatar Traditional 2x12 with 2 Vintage 30's in them.

I still want to get another amp too, and use the Egnater + 112 for practice/smaller things, and the louder amp (AC50?) + the Avatar 2x12.

I have a 60's Classic Player's Strat and a Gibson Les Paul Classic and I am building a Tele this summer, if my guitars matter at all in this amp choice lol.

Any other ideas for a 50 watt head in that price range?
 
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Get a new cab with more speakers. More speakers will make you sound bigger, more stage presence... more power won't necessarily do that. Plus you can try different kinds of speakers, which can sometimes make more of a difference in sound than getting a new head.
 
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Keep your eyes open for a SF Bassman that has been maintained. When you plug that into a 2x12 you will have all the tone and headroom you will ever need.
Good Luck
 
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alex1fly said:
Get a new cab with more speakers. More speakers will make you sound bigger, more stage presence... more power won't necessarily do that. Plus you can try different kinds of speakers, which can sometimes make more of a difference in sound than getting a new head.
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Bigger but not louder. A 25 Watt head driving 8 speakers is the same 25 watts driving 4.

Speakers don't give you volume. I've seen the Edge fill Madison Square Garden with a Vox AC30. Sure he was run through the PA but any big room is going to mike you.

Are you happy with your sound? If you are mike it. Any amp change is going to change your sound. Even a higher wattage version of your amp will sound different.
 
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doesitmatter said:
Bigger but not louder. A 25 Watt head driving 8 speakers is the same 25 watts driving 4.

Speakers don't give you volume. I've seen the Edge fill Madison Square Garden with a Vox AC30. Sure he was run through the PA but any big room is going to mike you.

Are you happy with your sound? If you are mike it. Any amp change is going to change your sound. Even a higher wattage version of your amp will sound different.
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In that case, she must have some seriously ((( HUGE ))) sound :


http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimfo/3411890057/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimfo/2872660269/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimfo/2872692929/sizes/o/


Just feel the hugeness :saeek:



James
 
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jah279 said:
Yeah, I was planning on getting an Avatar Traditional 2x12 with 2 Vintage 30's in them.

I still want to get another amp too, and use the Egnater + 112 for practice/smaller things, and the louder amp (AC50?) + the Avatar 2x12.

I have a 60's Classic Player's Strat and a Gibson Les Paul Classic and I am building a Tele this summer, if my guitars matter at all in this amp choice lol.

Any other ideas for a 50 watt head in that price range?
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LOVE your choice in guitars mate !
All you need now is an SG, Jazzmaster and ES-335 :14:

No other GOOD heads come to mind in the $5-600.00 USD bracket now, but if you scout CL & eVilleBay, you might get ahold of somehting !


James
 
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The Vox AD50 2x12 combo was on clearance for like $750 at my shop for a while. If you can find one of those around that price then you're way ahead of the game...i loved that amp for sparkly Beatles cleans and sludgey Sabbath doom and beyond. The gain channel has huge lowend (some would say muddy but i say thick) which tightened up perfectly for some Slayer riffs with a Tubescreamer in the mix.

If the head is much less and you can get a rad cab you'll be gettin good tone too.

The more of the Vox stuff I play, the less I think about Orange stuff...
 
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doesitmatter said:
Bigger but not louder. A 25 Watt head driving 8 speakers is the same 25 watts driving 4.

Speakers don't give you volume. I've seen the Edge fill Madison Square Garden with a Vox AC30. Sure he was run through the PA but any big room is going to mike you.

Are you happy with your sound? If you are mike it. Any amp change is going to change your sound. Even a higher wattage version of your amp will sound different.
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I find that in a band situation you hardly EVER need MORE volume. In fact, if your band wants to be tight, a great thing to do is to rehearse as quietly as possible. Getting your sound to cut through the mix is about spreading the sound and EQ first, then about volume. An additional speaker may only give you 3db more, but the bigness is what counts. Just look at when you put your 1x12 on the ground, versus setting your 1x12 up on a chair. The volume does not change, but your sound spreads in a much more audibly present way.
 
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zzmoore said:
Keep your eyes open for a SF Bassman that has been maintained. When you plug that into a 2x12 you will have all the tone and headroom you will ever need.
Good Luck
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This is a good tidbit...those things have superb clean tone and take pedals in a very friendly way. They're not bad ran up around 8 or so, but they won't give Plexi style OD or anything...their OD is chunkier.

And when they're ran that high, they're loud. REAL loud.:eyecrazy:

Another alternative for great tones on the cheap in head format is a Peavey Classic 50. The Peavey Butcher comes to mind, as well
 
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If you are playing bigger venues just mic your guitar amp. Even if you have a 4X12cab, only one of those speakers will be miced anyway. Keeping your stage volume low is key to good vocals and overall good sound. There is nothing more disorienting for a vocalist than stage volime that is unneccassarily loud. Point an SM57 slightly off axis at your speaker and you're good to go.
 
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Empty Pockets said:
The Vox AD50 2x12 combo was on clearance for like $750 at my shop for a while. If you can find one of those around that price then you're way ahead of the game...i loved that amp for sparkly Beatles cleans and sludgey Sabbath doom and beyond. The gain channel has huge lowend (some would say muddy but i say thick) which tightened up perfectly for some Slayer riffs with a Tubescreamer in the mix.

...
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Bloody Hell Mate . . . why is an SS combo sooooo expensive ?



James
 
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this particular Vox was once looked at by the guy who used to sing for Ted Nugent so it's just oozing with left-over star power mojo waiting for you to absorb and have the torch of rock-n-roll stardom passed on to YOU MY BROTHER...!!

actually it was a typo. I meant to be on topic and say AC50 :smokin:
 
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