We might perhaps finally know Van Halen's humbuckers magnet type

[Mincer]

True! Even those guys did it too though, Clapton said he played a Les Paul because Freddie King was holding one on an album cover so he figured that was how to get that type of sound, then he wanted to play a Strat when he saw his dear friend Stevie Winwood playing one, and in his words, he idolized Steve. I'd venture a guess that the reason Eddie had that 335 in the first place was because his idol Clapton played one in Cream!

Well, many of us initially chose the gear we chose because of someone we looked up to.

 

[Aceman]

EVH tone is preset #37 in a Digitech RP200A. It really is that easy these days.

 

[AZ Picker]

When Pete Thorn got closer than I ever have with 20 some different pickups from a Dimarzio Super D to a Duncan 59, I realized it’s a small part of the big picture. Nothin wrong with doing some “research” and posting their findings/opinions. And hey it’s something new I hadn’t really heard or thought about.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Exactly what the blogger said in one of the blogposts tbh

"We may never know exactly, and it's time better spent practicing"

Something along those lines

Not any of his posts on this forum or in this string. But if he said that (anywhere), he is correct. If you want to sound good you've got to know your gear and practice.

 

[orpheo]

You don't understand to know the type of magnet we need to know it's lenght. As we now his es-335 was the origin of the magnet. Those es-335 which used 2.25 inch magnets were always alnico V.

It's nonsense like this that has me fly up a wall. The idea that Gibson used the same magnet and nothing BUT that magnet is ridiculous at best and damaging at best. It detracts from the point of all of this (finding YOUR tone, with YOUR gear and YOUR fingers), but also obfuscates the truth, which is that Gibson most definitely did not use A5 in their pickups because the majority of their magnets were not of that alloy nor strength. Modern Alnico III and IV are way closer.

But hey, I only get my info from the people who actually make the modern replicas and tore apart vintage specimens (as well as my own findings, cause I used to tear many a pickup apart in my days).

 

[Pat_rocks_and_rolls]

When Pete Thorn got closer than I ever have with 20 some different pickups from a Dimarzio Super D to a Duncan 59, I realized it’s a small part of the big picture. Nothin wrong with doing some “research” and posting their findings/opinions. And hey it’s something new I hadn’t really heard or thought about.

Pete Thorn has a Suhr sl68 modded with evh specs because he is friend with dave friedman and John Suhr. They gave him the full spec'd copy of ed's marshall without the vh1 vh2 mods. Regular sl68 don't have those mods. His suhr has the complete van halen specs like the 50k lin mid pot instead of 25klin. it has the 330uf fat cap on v2 and a 100k feedback resistor on the 4ohm tap instead of the regular 47k on 8ohm tap plus a 5000pf bright cap.

https://1978guitarsandspecs.wordpres...-in-its-hands/

 

[beaubrummels]

Meanwhile someone just did Ain't Talkin' Bout Love with a StagMag in Tips and Clips

 

[Mincer]

It detracts from the point of all of this (finding YOUR tone, with YOUR gear and YOUR fingers), but also obfuscates the truth,

I used to think that was the point of all of this, but sadly, it isn't.

 

[larryguitar]

Like Beau alluded to, the thing you need-and can't duplicate-isn't any of Eddie's gear, it's Eddie's EARS; he knew how to twist the knobs to get the sound in his head. That's why Pete Thorn can sound a hair's breadth from VH tone with any of 20+ humbuckers and a variety of amps; he understands the tones he's after, and knows how to twist the knobs to get them.

Larry

 

[Chistopher]

EVH is the only area of guitar history you get clowned for being interested in.

 

[AlexR]

^ Now you do, because its been done to death - many times over.

Its got to the point where none of the info is really that interesting, particularly where idle speculation is involved.

 

[LLL]

I finally found a way to find out which was the real magnet inside the frankenstein humbucker prototype (the super disortion inside the bee).

if this is right then people who bought the 25k replicas will not be really happy...

https://1978guitarsandspecs.wordpress.com/2023/04/05/van-halen-magnet-type-finally-found/

I applaud your efforts. And good on you for keeping the true guitarist muse alive, because hardly anyone else does anymore. :headbang:

 

[deanulve]

If you want to get picky about Edward's view, the term "brown sound" did not originate in reference to his guitar sound. Edward was talking about the sound of Alex's drums having a "brown sound".

Its nothing but good ol appropriation rite der I tellz ya!

 

[Archer250]

I applaud your efforts. And good on you for keeping the true guitarist muse alive, because hardly anyone else does anymore. :headbang:

Ok, let's put you up to your standards then.

Who are you, who's the OP, and what have the both of you contributed to "guitar music".

Are you the aforementioned Pete Thorn, a semi-famous session guitarist with enough internet clout to make useful content for the guitar community?
Are you out there putting your music forth to keep interest in the guitar like Steve Vai? Obviously not since we have weirdos like Tim Henson instead now.

Mate, you are a man replicating his heroes' tone in his garage.

As much as I appreciate the effort put into the OP's blog, the research that went into it and its use as a knowledge source, I fail to see how chipping in on a dead horse that's been beaten for 40 or so odd years keeps the guitarist muse alive.

What, did none of the other Van Halen gear blogs do it during that 40 year period where we saw rock guitar slowly die out? lol

 

[Aceman]

EVH is the only area of guitar history you get clowned for being interested in.

There is interest, there is OCD, and then there is obsessed.

I have seen half a dozen people just Nail EVH with random @$$ guitars and amps. And that was before the internet.

 

[Chistopher]

Ok, let's put you up to your standards then.

Who are you, who's the OP, and what have the both of you contributed to "guitar music".

Are you the aforementioned Pete Thorn, a semi-famous session guitarist with enough internet clout to make useful content for the guitar community?
Are you out there putting your music forth to keep interest in the guitar like Steve Vai? Obviously not since we have weirdos like Tim Henson instead now.

Mate, you are a man replicating his heroes' tone in his garage.

As much as I appreciate the effort put into the OP's blog, the research that went into it and its use as a knowledge source, I fail to see how chipping in on a dead horse that's been beaten for 40 or so odd years keeps the guitarist muse alive.

What, did none of the other Van Halen gear blogs do it during that 40 year period where we saw rock guitar slowly die out? lol

I can name a dozen things better worth the time it took to write that.

 

[Archer250]

I can name a dozen things better worth the time it took to write that.

I could literally do the same for 99% of posts here that aren't members asking about something and someone answering them :dance:

 

[Securb]

True! Even those guys did it too though, Clapton said he played a Les Paul because Freddie King was holding one on an album cover so he figured that was how to get that type of sound

Clapton said years later, he realized Freddie King used P90s, and the Beano Les Paul he bought had humbuckers. Eventually, he tried P90s and found he didn't like them. Point being the players we lionize were not as overly concerned with the inner workings of their gear the way modern guitarists seem to be. They just wanted something functional, plugged in, and played.

 

[ICTGoober]

Hound Dog Taylor used this, and sounded badass....

 

[Securb]

I fail to see how chipping in on a dead horse that's been beaten for 40 or so odd years keeps the guitarist muse alive.

It actually doesn't, it kills the muse. A muse is a goddess that inspires creativity and originality. If people spent more time creating something new instead of duplicating what was done 40 years ago ad nauseam there would be a richer tapestry of guitar music to enjoy. So in this case the term "muse" was definitely used incorrectly.

Euterpe (/juːˈtɜːrpiː/; Greek: Εὐτέρπη, lit. 'rejoicing well' or 'delight' [eu̯térpɛː], from Ancient Greek: εὖ, romanized: eû, lit. 'well' + Greek: τέρπειν, romanized: térpein, lit. 'to please') was one of the Muses in Greek mythology, presiding over music. In late Classical times, she was named muse of lyric poetry. She has been called "Giver of delight" by ancient poets.

Traditionally, musicians would invoke Euterpe to inspire, guide and assist them in their compositions. Such petitions might take the form of a prayer for divine inspiration from the muse.