Weird observation

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I was just going through some old clips of mine that had stored digitally from years ago (maybe 4 or 5 years). It's amazing, stepping back and listening to something now as unfamiliar. It almost seems unreal. I mean, who the HELL would have told me that the grating tone i was geting from a solid state amp was even remotely acceptable. The playing is garbage on half of the clips. It's frustrating because i played guitar more back then than now, yet the examples i found were just horrible. I just feel like giving up the instrument.

Hopefully the one thing that i can take away from this is that if nothing else, my ear seems to be improving. Seriously though, listening to this stuff has totally killed the last spec of self esteem i had left.

It's really a shame, the amount of work i need. Can anyone else relate?
 
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Well to me that is why I record alot of stuff all the time, as I have long since stopped playing live...no more time for that nor is there any decent jobs to get.
Use it to fuel energy to improve and learn from it....
No need to turn it into a negative experience....use them as milestones.

Playing is about enjoying yourself and having a good time.
As said fuel it to put even more effort into it.
 
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Listening to our own old recordings is like reading through an old diary or, for younger readers, checking old posts on social media.

Often, the first reaction is, what was I thinking back then? The second reaction is, at least I have managed to improve a little since then.

Since your recordings still exist, it ought to be possible to sample any decent chord progressions and riffs for re-use in new Projects. They may only form guide tracks but they could become the foundation of better works.
 
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The bigger worry is listening back to old stuff and thinking it's perfect, incredible.

Because if that happens, where ya gonna go next ?

There will always be a mix of stuff to be heard in old recordings ... some things you do well, and should build on. You can take pride in some of those moments. Other things that are more 'What the heck was I thinking ?" will illustrate things NOT to do, and things that hold the germ of a good idea but need work.

So take a balanced view and be honest and realistic with yourself. Celebrate what you do well, accept the rubbish-y stuff and work out which of those parts should be avoided and which you can develop.

Remember, you're travelling along a path that can last a lifetime. Sometimes you're in a valley and lose sight of the bigger landscape. Soon you climb a hill and can see for miles. Sometimes the sun shines on ya, sometimes it rains. Just keep travelling the path, you ARE making progress as long as you keep moving. Sometimes it can feel like you're going backwards, but in reality, as long as you keep taking steps, you're moving in the right direction.
 
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I find the analogy of a path too linear.

I prefer to think of creative activity as a maze. There are numerous permutations by which to arrive at very nearly the same place from several directions. I also like this comparison because a maze has an inside and an outside. It is possible to escape at any time. It is also possible to voluntarily re-enter in the hope of a different journey.
 
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I find the analogy of a path too linear.

I prefer to think of creative activity as a maze. There are numerous permutations by which to arrive at very nearly the same place from several directions. I also like this comparison because a maze has an inside and an outside. It is possible to escape at any time. It is also possible to voluntarily re-enter in the hope of a different journey.

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I recently dug out a handful of cassettes, live tapes a band I was in during the early 90s. I had remembered it as being really good stuff. It wasn't. The material was good. My tone was pretty good too. But the leads were sloppy, vocals were off pitch, the band wasn't tight and the mixes were awful. Oh well.
 
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Don't worry much on that mate, really. Just keep on going and play. Don't doubt in yourself. Just do it.

The most beautiful in guitar playing or anything that is done to a depth that there is no perfection. You can try to move as close to it as humanly possible but you will never reach that. After crossing the States with a car you can easily realise that the most fun is driving (progression), not arriving to the destination.

Other than that, try to capture the good content of these old demos. They hold great value: ideas. They can be an unlimited resource of salvaging parts. According to my knowledge, many missing musical jigsaw puzzle parts could be found in prehistoric, bad sounding song demos. They also include your starting points, initial influences, the desire why you grabbed the guitar on the first place anyway. Any time you forget why you started the whole thing or lose direction, just play an old demo and listen to with love. It's included there.

Because if that happens, where ya gonna go next?

I wonder, after the peak have been passed by, perhaps, learning how to use functionally what left can be the next step.

Before polyarthritis started to weaken my fretting hand a couple of years ago I could play the way that I can't anymore. Fingers are just not that mean and sometimes 1 or 2 fingers should be bypassed / rested to avoid pain when playing a gig. That restricts options and increase position changes. It can be quite a challenge to apply versions B, C, D up to Z that sounds something like the actual part that folks wish to hear when they visit a gig, just tailored to the available resources, power and speed. Without trying to lose the feel.

When I listen to my older stuff, the thing that I find amazing is how much everything changed. How I slowed down, how much less power / energy I have. For example, back in time when I recorded that track I used a 012 set of strings for standard tuning and I played quite intensely so almost ripped the wires off the neck. Now even 009 is heavy sometimes and I play with a soft touch. I am happy that it's still functional what I left, it is just a weird feeling that makes me go, I was really able to do this and that, back in time? I don't feel that to be perfect or anything, it had loads of flaws but compared to the present, I sound like someone else to me.



I'm not moaning at all as less power was some sort of loss, it's just a change. I did my time anyway. As a player I had luck with gear, tone and bands. Had great times, still having and will have them. As a beginner (I was 16) I had the luck to become the lead guitarist of a touring band after some sort of casting where there was no excuse. Parts and solos had to be delivered exactly the way they were and the band was also curious about composing skills. I guess that was why they decided to take me and not much more experienced (and I must admit, better) players. I just had more songs in my guitar. Then, once there, I was not supposed to sound bad. Those guys put a huge amount of trust in me to give that position that just I did not want to fail. So I played all the possible time, was almost dropped out the school due to be missing from classes and failed to live a normal life for a long time - but playing became stage ready right around the start and I've seen things beyond my imagination during the years. Now things change for a slower, more tactical flow. It's all okay. I'm in peace with that.
 
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I suck.

I used to be a little better, but Ive got nerve damage in my fretting hand fingertips and CTS in both wrists now (by trying too hard to improve my suckatude).

I've accepted that I suck.

But I keep plugging away cos I enjoy playing :bigthumb:

Edit-my point was, keep plugging away and dont get too wrapped up in shortcomings.
 
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I was just going through some old clips of mine that had stored digitally from years ago (maybe 4 or 5 years). It's amazing, stepping back and listening to something now as unfamiliar. It almost seems unreal. I mean, who the HELL would have told me that the grating tone i was geting from a solid state amp was even remotely acceptable. The playing is garbage on half of the clips. It's frustrating because i played guitar more back then than now, yet the examples i found were just horrible. I just feel like giving up the instrument.

Hopefully the one thing that i can take away from this is that if nothing else, my ear seems to be improving. Seriously though, listening to this stuff has totally killed the last spec of self esteem i had left.

It's really a shame, the amount of work i need. Can anyone else relate?

The main thing is that you evaluated yourself and know your strengths and areas for development. Speaking as a music teacher, the next step would be to give yourself specific actions you can take to improve. Don't go on the downward spiral of self doubt. My band demos from a few years ago are a bunch of fizz.
 
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Maybe you're right and your ear got better...OR maybe you're wrong and your ear got worse and you just don't know it yet. That's why sometimes you need someone elses ears.
 
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