marcello252
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2 springs only? Are you using 008?
What guitar are you playing today?
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Solarflares
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Honestly mate.
Put 3 regular springs back on it, in-line.
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Every day is a new day.
I never tire of this view.
I never tire of this view.
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Surely you mean - No thanks?
weepingminotaur
Well-known member
Haven't been able to play the past two days, grrr. Gonna fix that tonight.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Is that the gubbyment model?
GuitarStv
Sock Market Trader
Angling the springs out like that changes the feel of a trem quite a bit. I'm guessing mincer likes a light touch on the bar. Putting three springs will kill that.
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You’re very kind. I’m sure he/she has their reasons. Not that they would make the slightest difference to me.
Always worth trying new things once, but I do like customisations to be quantifiable in their efficacy.
Don’t want to engage in an argument over spring-linearity, when I don’t have his/them/their guitar here to try, and likewise.
We are all here to help each other. He doesn’t want to take my advice. That’s ok. It was free and he/she/it didn’t ask for it.
GuitarStv
Sock Market Trader
FWIW, I've experimented quite a bit with different trem spring configurations and run different ones depending on what I want from the guitar. like four heavy springs set perfectly straight with .11s on my Jazzmaster, and three springs (one straight, two angled) on my Charvel where I prefer a lighter touch. I figure as long as you can wiggle it in a way that makes you happy you're doing it right.
Rex_Rocker
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Nah. It's a new-ish Modern Lite. I think they came up with the model like 1 or 2 years ago? It's a Les Paul with a thin body ala SG, no Maple cap, and a satin finish without grain fill.
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I tried the reverse-angled approach back in ‘78, and carried on until 1985. Wide claw, narrow trem.FWIW, I've experimented quite a bit with different trem spring configurations and run different ones depending on what I want from the guitar. like four heavy springs set perfectly straight with .11s on my Jazzmaster, and three springs (one straight, two angled) on my Charvel where I prefer a lighter touch. I figure as long as you can wiggle it in a way that makes you happy you're doing it right.
But when I had a Floyd Rose fitted to my Strat, I managed to yank and twist the trem clean off the guitar.
That was when I fitted Gotoh posts, recessed the Floyd fully, shaved the block, and reverted to straight running springs.
Quick lesson in never pulling up on a Floyd’s bar, unless you have tons of spare trems laying around.
Wiggling was never an option. This was rock, not Cliff Richard and the Shadows!
But after Allan Holdsworth became known - everyone was wiggling. On everything.
I learned in ‘85 to wind the bar round and press down to raise strings. My G went up a perfect 5th!
Then the Blue Powder flexi-disc was given away in the guitar-player mag, and I discovered I was not alone. The trick then was to do it so quickly that people were sonically stunned, but anything remotely or visibly like Steve Vai was considered taboo for me, and I quickly grew away from the technique, since one inopportune photograph could have cemented my career as Steve’s understudy wannabe - which I wasn’t.
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marcello252
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Don't want to get in a rabbit hole, but I don't think rules written on stone exist about springs number or angle of the springs unless there is the right amount of even pulling on the strings. For example, I can't exacly check it, but maybe the distance from trem block to claws is different than mine and the traction is stronger on Mincer's guitar so two strings are enough, I use four parallel springs on mine instead for example but I use heavier strings and my trem is set to just touch the body on standard tuning (I can only pitch down but if I break a string is still in tune), it's not floating
80's_Metal
Underglazed Hair Metalologist
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Why is the springs suddenly a right or wrong thing?
If you have one spring and it does what you want fine
If you have two and the get the 5 lbs or what is that 2.2kg of force to overcome the string tension..... what difference does it make if they are esthetically pleasing to anyone else
They work
There is no right or wrong
Two stiff springs with screws cranked in
Or five softer springs ....
Dangit
On the other hand
Steve , can you spin her around and let us see her backside?
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Just added the roller bridge and trem from Guyker
And the Grover copy locking tuners
The new flat wound 9-42 D'Addario strings seem to sit a bit different in the nut.... may have had 10s before
But what was prefect setup
Now has a bit of noise at the first fret
I will sort that tomorrow
i 100% dont believe there is a right or wrong way to setup the springs on your trem. im not a big trem guy, but ive worked on tons of guitars for people that are. different springs have different tensions and people want a feel that suits them best. ive never used less than two, but ive had two straight, two angled, three strait, two angled with one straight, four straight, three straight with one angled, and five straight. find what works for you on each guitar and run with it
weepingminotaur
Well-known member
Tonight was dialling the EC-1000 LTD back into C# to dust off some Behemoth and late '90s / early aughts Slayer. I can notice some decent raw speed differences in my tremolo picking, but string-skipping while doing it is still rough. More work to do...
MikeS
Bengalsologist
It's not. It's a function of string tension, geometry, spring tension, spring rate, and personal preference. I have different guitars set up different ways. I can't get a flutter with all of my setups, nor do I want to.
But speaking of flutter, tonight I was playing my ESP LTD Serpent-600. It's already pictured somewhere in this thread. Long live the Screamin' Demon.
