What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

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Mount Rushmore, as in four different, yet great, iconic amps?

Well, Fender, Marshall, Vox and Mesa.

But which models?

So many great Fender amps, and rather go BIG like the Twin Reverb or Dual Showman, I'll say 1965 BF Deluxe Reverb. Honorable Mention to all the other BF Fender amps from top to bottom.

Playing a 100-watt Marshall Plexi was damn near a religious epiphany. I got to pound out licks from The Who that would make a pinball machine tilt. Hell, crumble! But going smaller, I'd have to choose the JTM45 half-stack. I also like the 50-watt JCM800 heads, the Bluebreaker combo and the rare Club and Country models.

Third, the VOX AC30TB. I have other amps I like better that are comparable, but the AC30TB is so iconic it deserves to be enshrined.

And finally the Mesa Mark IIC+. Some prefer the 100- watt without the Graphic EQ. I'd choose a fully-loaded Simul-Class version, reverb and EQ, with the 112 EVM speaker in an imbuya combo. Wicker grill, of course. Look fabulous in my living room, yet I could play it on any stage in the world, any genre, and KNOW my tone would be fantastic.

So much for Mt. Rushmore.

But if we are talking Everest, the Pinnacle...it would have to be the Mesa Mark V. With a little tweaking and tube substitution, I can get the tones of all four of the amps above. And moreso, it is just a wonderfully creative and inspirational tool. Expensive yes, but the value for dollars paid is off the chart.

Bill
 
Re: What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

Mount Rushmore, as in four different, yet great, iconic amps?

Well, Fender, Marshall, Vox and Mesa.

But which models?

So many great Fender amps, and rather go BIG like the Twin Reverb or Dual Showman, I'll say 1965 BF Deluxe Reverb. Honorable Mention to all the other BF Fender amps from top to bottom.

Playing a 100-watt Marshall Plexi was damn near a religious epiphany. I got to pound out licks from The Who that would make a pinball machine tilt. Hell, crumble! But going smaller, I'd have to choose the JTM45 half-stack. I also like the 50-watt JCM800 heads, the Bluebreaker combo and the rare Club and Country models.

Third, the VOX AC30TB. I have other amps I like better that are comparable, but the AC30TB is so iconic it deserves to be enshrined.

And finally the Mesa Mark IIC+. Some prefer the 100- watt without the Graphic EQ. I'd choose a fully-loaded Simul-Class version, reverb and EQ, with the 112 EVM speaker in an imbuya combo. Wicker grill, of course. Look fabulous in my living room, yet I could play it on any stage in the world, any genre, and KNOW my tone would be fantastic.

So much for Mt. Rushmore.

But if we are talking Everest, the Pinnacle...it would have to be the Mesa Mark V. With a little tweaking and tube substitution, I can get the tones of all four of the amps above. And moreso, it is just a wonderfully creative and inspirational tool. Expensive yes, but the value for dollars paid is off the chart.

Bill

What this guy said.

And can't have a Mount Rushmore without a Plexi.
 
Re: What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

The "Mount Rushmore" of amplifiers is as follows....

Ampeg
Boogie
Fender
Marshall
VOX

All others are pretty much variations/exaggerations of the above. All born of D.T.N. Williamson.

Except Mesas are Soldano clones...
 
Re: What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

A local music store (Music Shack) where I purchased my first Gibson guitar (1978) was a Lab Series dealer. So yes, I have played through them. The cleans were just okay, gain was comical. In those days, the Roland JC-120 was the king of solid-state clean tone. The best solid-state gain tones came from Peavey Backstage, Bandit, and Renown amplifiers. Although Lab Series amps sucked balls, they did have a relatively cool sounding phaser effect. I think it was a phaser? I remember it had large wheels on the sides of the housing. Wasn't as good as the EH Small Stone, but it was cool.

Allan Holdsworth, not Allen. Anyway... That compressed, syrupy tri-chorus tone makes me nauseous, literally. I find his playing overindulgent, unnecessary, and uninspiring. He would have been the perfect addition to Frank Zappa's cacophony of musical lunacy. Alex Lifeson (post Moving Pictures) leaned heavily on that sound; which is how they lost me as a fan.
Oh well, that's part of what made me a fan for life.

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Re: What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

Plexi 1959 - full stop, the Dawn chorus of the Rock age.

Then the others lol.
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Re: What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

If I had to choose one, my vote goes to the VOX AC30. It may be the most recorded amplifier ever. We all have our favorite, but I think the AC30TB and Marshall Super Lead 100 rule.
 
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Except Mesas are Soldano clones...
Soldano SLO100 was designed off the Marshall Super Lead circuit. The MESA Dual Rectifier uses the SLO preamp, but I believe the power section is something different. Maybe someone that knows more about the DR can chime-in.
 
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Soldano SLO100 was designed off the Marshall Super Lead circuit. The MESA Dual Rectifier uses the SLO preamp, but I believe the power section is something different. Maybe someone that knows more about the DR can chime-in.
The pre-amp isn't even entirely a clone on the red channel; one of the tone-stack resistors is different, giving it a shallower mid-range cut (done to partially counteract the overwhelming treble and bass created by the lack of an NFL in modern).

The power section is, indeed, totally different (at least on modern, vintage really is very similar to the SLO, but vintage isn't what anyone buys a Recto for, you might as well just buy a 5150 and keep the depth knob on "0" if that's what you're after). No negative feedback loop at all and the presence control is actually a treble-dump in the pre-amp, which is why the amp has such a "big" feel and sound to it, and also why the low-end gets totally out of control really easily. Also, unlike the SLO, the effects loop is in the correct place (after the tonestack), although some Recto revisions have a parallel loop, which makes it effectively unusable in its own special way.

The above doesn't even take into consideration that Mesa's original claim to fame was the Mark series, which is pretty much entirely unlike anything Soldano (or anyone else) has ever made.
 
Re: What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

My "Mt. Rushmore" would look quite different from the one that would exist based on impact and popularity.

For example, mine would include this beast:

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Intresting that the amp that most of us agree on so far is the Vox AC 30.

Not me. I own two VOX AC30’s and they are noisy buzz monkeys and sound like nasally ass. But if you need ‘that’ chimy lack-of-bass-and-top-end-detail sound, nothing else will do.

My Rushmore would be

1968 Marshall Plexi 100
1970 Hiwatt DR103
1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb
1959 Fender Tweed Twin
 
Re: What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

Then again, I haven’t plugged in my amp since May 2017. I’m seriously considering selling it.
 
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A local music store (Music Shack) where I purchased my first Gibson guitar (1978) was a Lab Series dealer. So yes, I have played through them. The cleans were just okay, gain was comical. In those days, the Roland JC-120 was the king of solid-state clean tone. The best solid-state gain tones came from Peavey Backstage, Bandit, and Renown amplifiers. Although Lab Series amps sucked balls, they did have a relatively cool sounding phaser effect. I think it was a phaser? I remember it had large wheels on the sides of the housing. Wasn't as good as the EH Small Stone, but it was cool.

Allan Holdsworth, not Allen. Anyway... That compressed, syrupy tri-chorus tone makes me nauseous, literally. I find his playing overindulgent, unnecessary, and uninspiring. He would have been the perfect addition to Frank Zappa's cacophony of musical lunacy. Alex Lifeson (post Moving Pictures) leaned heavily on that sound; which is how they lost me as a fan.

Lab Series must have made you lose your mind.
 
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Even if you don't like a musician, you can still be subjective as to what they are doing and have accomplished. If you can not see that why would I listen to you your opinion on anything else? Especially gear? I can not believe you bashed Holdsworth, Lifeson and Zappa in a single post.

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Haahhahaha!!! Diss Zappa? Not on my watch.
 
Re: What is the Mount Rushmore of guitar amps?

Then again, I haven’t plugged in my amp since May 2017. I’m seriously considering selling it.

pm me please, if serious. I'm only paying half assed attn, but I just blew up my amp. You or sweetwater, sweetheart.
 
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