What OD/Pedal will give a "slight gain, compression, overtones" ?

[Erlend_G]

What about the "Nano Overlord"?

It has a "dry blend" knob, 3 band EQ, and a three-way "input level" switch;

that I guess can make it operate without too much distortion.

I'll check out some youtube clips when I come back...

it's the same price as the Soul Food btw.

-Erl

 

[Hsb]

If thats the case, try to find a Soul Food, they are great pedals. When I got back into using pedals that was on my short list. Ive tried the SF but never the Overlord, so cant speak on that one.

 

[Dave Locher]

EDIT: this is in response to Dave Locher, I got ninja'd

Not being familiar with what you play, what is a Klon (with the drive down, I assume) doing for you that a flat volume pedal (or the gain knob of your amp) wouldn't do just as well for a lot cheaper? The Klon's whole thing is that it has a lot less compression (and less compression-per-amount-of-distortion) and EQ than most OD pedals, so with the drive down, it's barely doing anything but applying a fairly flat boost (or a scooped boost with the tone down, which I'm assuming you're not doing, or a really treble-hyped boost with the tone up, which I also assume you're not doing).

It really strikes me as an odd circuit to choose to use as a "supplemental" thing in your rig, rather than your main source of distortion (which, for lower-gain sounds, it's design is amazingly well suited for on paper at least).

I play punk and hard rock using humbucker guitars into a 1978 Randall RG100ES, which is a solid-state amp that sounds very Marshall. It's what Dimebag played, and I believe John 5 might have used one with Marilyn Manson? (Not sure about that, don't really care, not trying to duplicate either of their sounds.)

I am using the klone as a dirty boost for solos or other single-note work. The "thing" it gives me that I don't get from a straight boost is the gain control. I run the gain between 9 o'clock and noon, roughly the same setting I use on my MXR GT-OD or my Guv'nor clone if I use one of them instead. Tone is around 1 o'clock and volume is above unity but not completely cranked (around 3 o-clock). This allows me to run my amp with a crisp, tight crunch for rhythm but get a fuller, thicker, more compressed tone for single-string work. If I play chords with any of those OD pedals on it's too mushy. But for single-note/single-string playing it is nice and full, at least to my ears.

I have tried some clean boosts and they work okay for me, but I really prefer having the added bonus of the gain knob to add in as much (or little) grit as I like.

I am far from the only player in the world using a Klon or klone this way! The "recommended" method I read on another forum is tone at noon, volume at or just above unity, then turn the gain up "until a shift occurs in the mids." That's close to what I have come up with. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of posts on The Gear Page singing the praises of the Klon (or klones) as a clean, slightly dirty, or dirty boos.

Is the klone the ONLY pedal I could use? Absolutely not. I can just turn up the preamp gain on my amp, but that makes rhythm a bit more compressed than I like. I can use any one of a number of OD pedals, I just like the open character of the klone and the fact that it doesn't chop off nearly as much low end as the GT-OD or other tubescreamer circuits. And I can use a clean boost or eq pedal but it is harder to get just the right grit so that sustained notes decay smoothly into controllable feedback. For now the klone is working well for me. And I think it would work well for the original poster, in that he doesn't want to transform his sound but just add some things to it. For me, a tube screamer adds too much in the mids and (more importantly) takes away too much in the lows.

Having said all of that, it really does work well as a stand-alone source of dirt as well. But I prefer my amp's own crunch.

 

[Hsb]

Ill just say, dont knock it till you try one. I love my Marshall, add a bit of Tumnus to it and its pure tonal heaven

 

[Lewguitar]

Not a bad article.

https://toneisland.com/best-klon-centaur-clones-pedals/

At the end, the shoot-out between REAL Klons is interesting, although the tone I get from my rig is, I think, better.

I have a Klon KTR and within a week or so of getting it I either gave away or sold the Klones I had.

 

[AlexR]

Hey guys,



.. :/

My amp only got 2 preamp tubes, therefore I'm battling this "problem", to get a more alive, warm and dynamic clean sound, right when it break into overdrive, as I push harder with the pick/fingers.


-Erlend

If your amp has only 2 preamp tubes, this will make it more likely to naturally do 'edge of breakup' and 'dynamic' very well, not less. The king of recorded amps (tweed deluxe) is just this setup.
The more preamp tubes the more the drive is cascaded and the harder it is to dial in that sort of tone. But it is eminently possible nonetheless.

Sounds more like you are having trouble adjusting your amp......maybe you need to invest some time in some online tutorials with your model.

 

[ehdwuld]

I like the EHX & JOYO too
I have the Octavix and the Ultimate Drive
I like both pedals , but as with most fuzz pedals, they sound much better when someone else plays them.

 

[51501984]

Cusack Screamer V2 or if you want the full eq Seymour Duncan 805

 

[Mincer]

Cusack Screamer V2 or if you want the full eq Seymour Duncan 805

While the 805 isn't as cheap as some other TS-based pedals, I have to say that once you get used to the 3 band active EQ, it is hard to go back to a single passive tone control.

 

[dave74]

While the 805 isn't as cheap as some other TS-based pedals, I have to say that once you get used to the 3 band active EQ, it is hard to go back to a single passive tone control.

I totally agree with your point, but I'm fairly certain that the tone control on a ts is active; boost above noon and cut below, with a preset cornering frequency (I think somewhere in the 4k area maybe(?)),
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibanez...creamer#Design

Anyways,,, having one control doesn't allow you to really custom-carve the boost like some of the more modern takes on the ts.

 

[Erlend_G]

Okay.

I'm taking a short week (6 days) off, at my mothers house- with no internet or things to worry about

When I come home, I'll most likely order a "Electro harmonix Nano Overlord" pedal,

since it has several of the features I need/want-

-a 3-band EQ. Should let me dial in more mids, a bit less treble...
-Dry/wet blend control, .-very nice! Since, I can keep any amount of the original signal bypassed, and get some grit/more mids on the rest...
-low/mid/high input level switch, for various gain/distortion amounts. It seems, like, when this switch is at "low", it doesn't even distort at all.

I can refund it after 14 days most, of testing- so I'll give it a shot.

I just hope the EQ's frequencies are where I need it;
and that It has the sufficient "compression" ;

Listened to some sound clips; and it sounds mighty good to me. I just hope it is more of a "compressed" type of gain, and not a "open" type.

(I'm afraid it's more "transparent" voiced unfortunately. I love how a Tube Screamer compresses the tone, and gives more mids...)

I'll have a final "look around" before I order anyways.

-Erl

 

[Erlend_G]

If your amp has only 2 preamp tubes, this will make it more likely to naturally do 'edge of breakup' and 'dynamic' very well, not less. The king of recorded amps (tweed deluxe) is just this setup.
The more preamp tubes the more the drive is cascaded and the harder it is to dial in that sort of tone. But it is eminently possible nonetheless.

Sounds more like you are having trouble adjusting your amp......maybe you need to invest some time in some online tutorials with your model.

Well. There isn't much to adjust;

"volume" (that is well, "pre gain") for the clean channel;
and "tone" for the clean channel.

I just want this tone, to be abit more compressed. and more of "the good stuff", sparkle, compression, life.

I'm happy about my OD channel tone, running a "octavix" fuzzboxs behind it. LOADS! of compression and saggy goodness , But very far from a "clean" tone :/.

Looking for the pedal/box to ...well, make the clean channel sound the way I want.

thanks

-Erl

 

[dave74]

Hey Erland I think that's a very solid choice in the overlord. I've wanted the full size for awhile now. Lots in there for cheap. True bypass also right?

 

[chadd]

Well. There isn't much to adjust;

"volume" (that is well, "pre gain") for the clean channel;
and "tone" for the clean channel.

I just want this tone, to be abit more compressed. and more of "the good stuff", sparkle, compression, life.

I'm happy about my OD channel tone, running a "octavix" fuzzboxs behind it. LOADS! of compression and saggy goodness , But very far from a "clean" tone :/.

Looking for the pedal/box to ...well, make the clean channel sound the way I want.

thanks

-Erl

I've always viewed "sparkle and life" as things that come from a lack of compression, rather than the result of it.

 

[Demanic]

Keeley Katana. Pull the volume knob out if you want more mids (it's a push/pull). It goes to 10.

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[weepingminotaur]

Surprised no one's mentioned the Boss Blues Driver (BD2 or whatnot). Yeah, it's probably more of a single-coil, non-metal application, but I find it does exactly what the OP seems to want with level at around 1 or 2 o'clock and gain at 0. Clean boost, very smooth, gives you lovely responsiveness and dynamics at the edge of breakup.

 

[Simon_F]

Surprised no one's mentioned the Boss Blues Driver (BD2 or whatnot). Yeah, it's probably more of a single-coil, non-metal application, but I find it does exactly what the OP seems to want with level at around 1 or 2 o'clock and gain at 0. Clean boost, very smooth, but gives you lovely responsiveness and dynamics at the edge of breakup.

I mentioned it, and I agree, but we seem to be in a minority of 2

 

[SirJackdeFuzz II]

Hey Erlend . . . what you are describing (in my minds eye) i get the same effect with either an MXR Micro Amp, or a Boss BD-2 (with the gain knob at almost '0')

 

[SirJackdeFuzz II]

Surprised no one's mentioned the Boss Blues Driver (BD2 or whatnot). Yeah, it's probably more of a single-coil, non-metal application, but I find it does exactly what the OP seems to want with level at around 1 or 2 o'clock and gain at 0. Clean boost, very smooth, gives you lovely responsiveness and dynamics at the edge of breakup.

I 2nd the BD-2 :fing2:

 

[Erlend_G]

Okay, I never thought of the BD-2!

But I'll def check it out.

thanks! \m/

-Erl