stratneck2
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What is the recommended Value for the best tone on P-90's ???
What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
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the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
I like 500k volume, 250k tone and a .05 cap just like Gibson used on 50's Jr's and Specials.
I like 500k volume, 250k tone and a .05 cap just like Gibson used on 50's Jr's and Specials.
stratneck2
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Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
Ok, tell me why is the diff , between the 500 k in vol, and the the 250 in tone... I just want to learn about it.... Thanks Man !!!!
Ok, tell me why is the diff , between the 500 k in vol, and the the 250 in tone... I just want to learn about it.... Thanks Man !!!!
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
The higher the pot value the more open and clear the pickup is...if you were to use 2 500k pots it would have slightly more top end than my set up and if you were to use 2 250k's it would be a lot darker.
I think that volume pots make a bigger difference.
Gibson currently uses 2 300k pots in P-90 guitars (except for Historic/VOS guitars which get the 500k Volume and 250k Tone) and they sounds like crap...no cut, no clarity...just dark and wooley all the time.
The higher the pot value the more open and clear the pickup is...if you were to use 2 500k pots it would have slightly more top end than my set up and if you were to use 2 250k's it would be a lot darker.
I think that volume pots make a bigger difference.
Gibson currently uses 2 300k pots in P-90 guitars (except for Historic/VOS guitars which get the 500k Volume and 250k Tone) and they sounds like crap...no cut, no clarity...just dark and wooley all the time.
Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
It would depend on the guitar, but I like 300K for the bridge volume. Definitely 500K for the neck volume or maybe more. I'm currently running one that measures around 560K.
I'd start with 500K for tone, but mark where the 250K position is. If you find yourself never wanting to go above that, then swap for a 250K pot and get a more useable taper.
It would depend on the guitar, but I like 300K for the bridge volume. Definitely 500K for the neck volume or maybe more. I'm currently running one that measures around 560K.
I'd start with 500K for tone, but mark where the 250K position is. If you find yourself never wanting to go above that, then swap for a 250K pot and get a more useable taper.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
I like warm bridge PU's, but still need a sharp high end, so I use two 250Ks on the bridge. I always use two 500K's on the neck. .022 caps on both tone pots. When I mix pots on a warmer bridge P-90 (like a Lollar or Rio Grande), I use a 250K on the volume and a 500K on the tone.
I like warm bridge PU's, but still need a sharp high end, so I use two 250Ks on the bridge. I always use two 500K's on the neck. .022 caps on both tone pots. When I mix pots on a warmer bridge P-90 (like a Lollar or Rio Grande), I use a 250K on the volume and a 500K on the tone.
stratneck2
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Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
That's The Combo of Pu's and .022 caps with the Stock pots on my SG (300k) ???....they almost sound too Hi-FI !!! very bright.....
Should I use another Cap ? What Cap would give me a little darker tone ?
Thank you !!
That's The Combo of Pu's and .022 caps with the Stock pots on my SG (300k) ???....they almost sound too Hi-FI !!! very bright.....
Should I use another Cap ? What Cap would give me a little darker tone ?
Thank you !!
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
The cap only comes into play when you dial down the tone pot. If a guitar's bridge PU is too bright for me, I use a warmer magent or one or two 250K's. To me, a bridge P-90 with 500K's is very bright and thin. I like to beef them up with an A8/A4 pair. More mids, less treble, and lots more punch. Cuts thru the mix better on stage (treble tends to primarily 'beam' straight ahead and disperses quickly. Mids and lows penetrate better in a wider field).
The cap only comes into play when you dial down the tone pot. If a guitar's bridge PU is too bright for me, I use a warmer magent or one or two 250K's. To me, a bridge P-90 with 500K's is very bright and thin. I like to beef them up with an A8/A4 pair. More mids, less treble, and lots more punch. Cuts thru the mix better on stage (treble tends to primarily 'beam' straight ahead and disperses quickly. Mids and lows penetrate better in a wider field).
tubecrunch
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Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
500k. I have blower switches on mine and its still not too bright.
500k. I have blower switches on mine and its still not too bright.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
I hear that!
Truth is P-90's are not really ever too bright unless your amps EQ settings are very toppy or you have fried your ears (or maybe just have wood ears to begin with)...
I hear that!
Truth is P-90's are not really ever too bright unless your amps EQ settings are very toppy or you have fried your ears (or maybe just have wood ears to begin with)...
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
Obvious solution is a no-load 250K pot, or a push pull that is 500K in one position, and 250K in the other.
Obvious solution is a no-load 250K pot, or a push pull that is 500K in one position, and 250K in the other.
ErikH
Well-known member
Re: What Pot value for P-90's....250k or 500k ????
True for 50's style wiring but I have found that with modern wiring (tone pot wired to the outside lug) that a different value cap is slightly noticeable with the tone put up all the way (no-load, of course). It was really noticeable in one of my Strats when I changed from .022up to .1uf but I could still tell with a .047uf cap. Just to be sure I wasn't hearing things, I tried it with my Frankenstrat that has dual buckers (had a tone control at the time, doesn't now) and same results.
True for 50's style wiring but I have found that with modern wiring (tone pot wired to the outside lug) that a different value cap is slightly noticeable with the tone put up all the way (no-load, of course). It was really noticeable in one of my Strats when I changed from .022up to .1uf but I could still tell with a .047uf cap. Just to be sure I wasn't hearing things, I tried it with my Frankenstrat that has dual buckers (had a tone control at the time, doesn't now) and same results.
