What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

Jack_TriPpEr

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I like the tone of the Epiphone Hot Alnico V bridge pup I have tried in some Epi LP's recently. What Seymour Duncan pup is most similar to this? I have read online that DC resistance is 13-14 K, but could not find mention of its resonant peak rating. To my ears, it sounded like a relatively bright pup.

Thanks
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

I like the tone of the Epiphone Hot Alnico V bridge pup I have tried in some Epi LP's recently. What Seymour Duncan pup is most similar to this? I have read online that DC resistance is 13-14 K, but could not find mention of its resonant peak rating. To my ears, it sounded like a relatively bright pup.

Thanks

You're joking, right...?:scratchch
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

I love those pickups! They give my trash bags a good amount of heft for swinging them into the dumpster.
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

To your points, I would prefer to use a higher quality SD pup instead. I just needsome help identifying one that is in the same ballpark. I don't have first-hand experience w SD Alnico 5's to draw from.
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?


I doubt it!?

I really can't think of a similar Seymour Duncan.

Perhaps a Dimarzio Tone Zone or Air Zone?

If they are the same Asian Hot A5's that were in my Blacktop Strat (in the 12 to 13 k range) then they were VERY beefy, loose bottom, strong mids and a slight bit-o presence.

I also tried to find a Duncan or Dimarzio to graduate to with-out totally departing from the basic tonal qualities of the Hot A5 stock pick-ups.

I'm turning out to favor Dimarzios (sorry, I know it's a Duncan site) over Duncans- just personal taste.

I'm finding some good sounds with Dimarzio Nortons, though.

They are not as beefy as the Hot A5s, but I found the only thing those stock p'ups excelled at was gut-bucket blues (which I like), but that was it.

Nortons are like a versatile articulate version of the Hot A5 stock monsters.
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

But- if you want that thick low end from a better quality pick-up, I would try the Tone Zone (again, a Dimarzio).
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

To your points, I would prefer to use a higher quality SD pup instead. I just needsome help identifying one that is in the same ballpark. I don't have first-hand experience w SD Alnico 5's to draw from.

The Epi p'up is a bad copy of a 498T.

No Duncan p'up will come close to that... sound.

You can get those p'ups for free...
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

The Epi p'up is a bad copy of a 498T.

No Duncan p'up will come close to that... sound.

You can get those p'ups for free...

Really?- I have a 498t and it def doesn't have a sludgy bass at all.

Do you know if those stock Asian p'ups in the Epi are the same as the Hot A5 (Asian) in the Blacktop (MIM) Strats?
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

No SD pup is like the Epi. Not even come close...they all have clarity and are articulate compared to the Epi mud.

But for a better quality pup with a similar tone I would say the Custom Custom.
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

1 - Get any Duncan pickup and put in your guitar
2 - Put a blanket over your amp
3 - Done! You have a Duncan sounding similar to your Epi pickup.

Jokes apart, It seems like the Custom Custom should put you in the same "sound spectrum", but in a much higher level. Comparing to my Epi pickups, they have less clarity, and a kinda "muffled" tone, with little note definition. Also, they weren't bright.
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

Come on guys...give the OP a break.

kingswebe, all joking aside, any SD A5 humbucker will be better than that Emi...There are many to choose from....how about looking here scroll down to humbuckers and have a look
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

Once you hear the difference thru a good tube amp, you'll be hooked on high quality PU's. So much more clarity, depth, and definition.
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

hell, man- no-one is helping this guy out: "any SD A5 humbucker will be better than that Emi..."- seriously?

He doesn't JUST want better, he wants something better AND a bit like the vibe he had from the stock p'ups.

Seems like people are talking down to this guy!

I'll say it again- Tone Zone. (unless it's different than the stock Hot A5s that get served up in an MIM Blacktop Strat- (but no-ones gotten back to me yet on that).

I don't think just saying something like "any Seymour Duncan will blow that piece of **** away" is what the OP had in mind.
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

hell, man- no-one is helping this guy out: "any SD A5 humbucker will be better than that Emi..."- seriously?

He doesn't JUST want better, he wants something better AND a bit like the vibe he had from the stock p'ups.

Seems like people are talking down to this guy!

I'll say it again- Tone Zone. (unless it's different than the stock Hot A5s that get served up in an MIM Blacktop Strat- (but no-ones gotten back to me yet on that).

I don't think just saying something like "any Seymour Duncan will blow that piece of **** away" is what the OP had in mind.

If you are referring to me, I am not talking down to anyone. Emi pickups are potted with so much wax that they look like a bar of soap under the covers....not good for the tone.

The OP hasn't mentioned anything except the pup he liked was bright.....not too much info to go on. The OP might very well like a tone Zone..he might like a 59 if he is after brightness.
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

I've played the pickup you are talking about. I would think something between the Custom5 and the Distortion would be as close as you would get. If you want smoother, the Custom5, if you want grittier, the distortion.

As to some of the other comments:

The Epi hot bridge in their Les Paul is not like the 498t. The Epiphone G-400 (SG) bridge is close to that. The Les paul bridge is hotter and has more sizzle.

Also, why would we think the pickups in that Epi Les Paul bridge would be the same as the ones in a Mexican strat ???
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

I like the tone of the Epiphone Hot Alnico V bridge pup I have tried in some Epi LP's recently. What Seymour Duncan pup is most similar to this? I have read online that DC resistance is 13-14 K, but could not find mention of its resonant peak rating. To my ears, it sounded like a relatively bright pup.

Thanks
What kind of tone are you going for? My first instinc is to recommend a Custom 5, but there are more variables to look at.
What amp are you using? What kind of settings? What popular player's tone do you gravitate towards and what is it about your current pickups that you'd like to change?
 
Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

Thanks everyone that has tried to help, and for those that were just having a good laugh, I don't mind that either - I know it's odd to hear someone say they "dig" the tone of Epiphone stock pups - haha.

I should provide more info. on what I like about this pup and what tones I am trying to capture with them, as some have asked. I didn't do this previously because it's sort of complicated and I wanted to keep it simple. but here goes....

I picked up a used Epiphone LP Classic Quilted recently and what I particularly like about the Epi Hot Alnico 5 bridge pup that's in it, is when I throw a good amount of distortion at it - it gets the closest to Metallica's "Kill 'Em All" tone that I have been chasing for the last couple years. Prior to getting this Epi LP, I had been trying different pups in Ibanezs and Jacksons, and even a HSS Strat with mixed results. And like I mentioned previously, I have been experimenting just w ceramic pups in the last couple years, so getting a feel for what the current Alnico 5's pup "major players" are and how they match up is foreign territory for me.

The signal chain is: guitar into an MXR Fullbore Metal stompbox into the clean channel of a Fender Blues Deluxe Reissue amp that is sending out to a Marshall 1960AV cab. I use this amp and set-up vs. a high gain amp, because I value my clean tones as well as my dirty tones, and I haven't found a high gain amp under a $1000 (I am on a budget) that also had a clean channel that I liked.

Regarding claims that the Epi Hot Alnico is muddy, etc. - I do concur actually in some regards... to me, I think both the bridge and the neck Epi pups sound bland and muddy when used on their own or in combo, for CLEAN tones... but for heavy distortion, and particularly when the amp and stompbox's EQ's are tweaked towards that rough-under-the-edges, saturated Metallica KEA tone, it's definitely not muddy - if anything, maybe too bright, IMO. but not mud. I figure I'll replace the neck pup with something else to get quality clean tones later, right now I am just focusing on the bridge pup and dirt tones.

So why am I inquiring about a SD pup to replace this Epi pup that I say I like? The LP I got doesn't have a whammy trem, and as I am a player where trem use figures into a good amount of my playing, I've already started looking at other Epi LP's that have a trem installed. I just picked up a used Epi Nightfall LP that has a OFR, and trying to find a pup for its bridge position to approximate what I like in the first non-FR Les Paul. The Nightfall has EMG HZ's and don't even sound close.

I am keeping mind the fact that the OFR LP does not have a maple cap like the first LP, which may be a big part of the sound I am digging in the first LP and therefore maybe can't be overcome in the non-maple OFR LP no matter what pup I end up putting in it.

Thanks for all your input, and the laughs :18:
 
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Re: What SD pup is similar to Epi Hot Alnico 5?

custom bridge for sure. you will be amazed. If the tone with the stock ceramic magnet is too present or brutal for you, the custom also sounds good with alnico magnets of all types, so if you get a couple of magnets for a few bucks its like having a whole bunch of pickups to try out for the cost of only one. Custom with a5=custom 5, Custom with A8=custom 8, custom with A2=custom custom etc.
You can't lose. :)
 
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