What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

[uOpt]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

The '78 would be a GREAT production pickup, even if was part of a "premium" line at a slightly higher cost like the Seths, Screamin' Demon, Pearly Gates, etc.

In fact, there are a few models that could become part of a more premium production line....call it the Seymour Duncan "Elite" series.

Yeah. Just like the Seth is a bit special and a bit more expensive but not in the "full CS" bracket.

A pickup like the '78 looks like a good candidate since it doesn't need any special materials. Regular PAF bobbin + baseplate setup.

 

[Davii]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

Being a relatively new member of the community here, I did find the idea of going through a design process for a puckup that is intended to be the other position partner to an existing one to be a bit strange. Once it was decided that was what was wanted of course, and not a complaint, not directed at any one member etc, just seemed odd

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

A few people said they didn't like how it looks. I love the looks...very different/unique.

When I bought it I didn't have the right guitar to put it in so I just put it away in my parts cupboard. Then I forgot about it, even though I got at least a dozen more guitars since then. Darn it! It would have been perfect for a couple of them. Oh well, I'm building a couple more now so maybe it will go in one of those. Eventually I'll get a chance to finally hear what it sounds like.

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

I did find the idea of going through a design process for a puckup that is intended to be the other position partner to an existing one to be a bit strange.

The '59/Custom hybrid was the result of trial and error by forum member Bach To Rock. The experiment involved pre-existing, readily-available parts. BTR hit upon a permutation that worked well.

Unfortunately, there is little possibility of the same process resulting in a neck/Rhythm position partner for the '59/Custom. The necessary production model coils that might yield a desirable combination does not exist. It would be necessary to either custom wind or unwind and cut back existing coils.

I dare say that some out there could throw in suggestions. Let's make up an example, the "rude sizzle" of a Pearly Gates Neck with the "punch and warmth" of the Whole Lotta Humbucker. (NOTE - This is not a serious suggestion. Just a starting point for debate.)

 

[blueman335]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

Unfortunately, there is little possibility of the same process resulting in a neck/Rhythm position partner for the '59/Custom. The necessary production model coils that might yield a desirable combination does not exist. It would be necessary to either custom wind or unwind and cut back existing coils.

Not true. I make neck hybrids by combining a coil from a bridge PAF with a neck PAF, i.e. '59B/'59N, SethB/'59N, etc. Lots of potential combinations. A difference of about .5k between coils adds treble and thins out some mids; it lessens the humbucker effect. So an 8K hybrid can be brighter than a stock 7.5K with balanced coils. That allows me to use a magnet with a lot of texture (A2 or UOA5), and still have a sharp high end with bite. Duncan could make some nice neck hybrids with all the PAF's they have.

 

[frankfalbo]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

Actually there are plenty of stock Duncan coils that would make a good neck hybrid. 59/Demon is the most obvious to me.

 

[JeffB]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

After the Brobucker..which compared to future efforts, was a piece of.cake....I lost interest in pickup by committee design. I rarely jibe with what most folks like (and Im sure it's reciprocal, no accounting for.taste, ya know?) so why would I throw $100 at some kind of test tube experiment by the junior high chemistry class again as I likely would have to.compromise on a whole bunch of specs and ultimately would have no use for such a pickup (and make no mistake I consider myself part of that science class as well).

I would rather spend 50 more bucks and get what I want/need.

 

[orpheo]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

Actually there are plenty of stock Duncan coils that would make a good neck hybrid. 59/Demon is the most obvious to me.

59N is what I'd suggest tried it with a demon, one of the best neck pups I know.

 

[Davii]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

The '59/Custom hybrid was the result of trial and error by forum member Bach To Rock. The experiment involved pre-existing, readily-available parts. BTR hit upon a permutation that worked well.

Unfortunately, there is little possibility of the same process resulting in a neck/Rhythm position partner for the '59/Custom. The necessary production model coils that might yield a desirable combination does not exist. It would be necessary to either custom wind or unwind and cut back existing coils.

I dare say that some out there could throw in suggestions. Let's make up an example, the "rude sizzle" of a Pearly Gates Neck with the "punch and warmth" of the Whole Lotta Humbucker. (NOTE - This is not a serious suggestion. Just a starting point for debate.)

I've likely got a wrong impression of what was going on. Essentially, My take on it was that SD would effectively be asked to produce a neck companion to an existing pickup in their line-up, so everything under discussion that followed beyond that point seemed superfluous to me. What spec the end result would have, would be down to them as part of the process of producing a suitable companion pickup, with any relation to any existing coils being irrelevant.

Have I got this all bottom about face?

 

[LtKojak]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

Actually there are plenty of stock Duncan coils that would make a good neck hybrid. 59/Demon is the most obvious to me.

Demon screw coil/'59n slug coil or the other way 'round, Frank?

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

Demon screw coil/'59n slug coil or the other way 'round?

Pertinent question. :approve:

(NOTE - This is not a serious suggestion. Just a starting point for debate.)

Seems to have worked.

 

[frankfalbo]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

Demon screw coil/'59n slug coil or the other way 'round, Frank?

The Demon uses two screw bobbins. So if you're making a hybrid you're sort of stuck with the Demon coil as the screw coil. If you're making two hybrids then the leftover hybrid would have two screw bobbins. All that said, I'd probably use the Demon coil at the neck side anyway. If you're looking to experiment, just take the double-screw leftover one and try flipping it around.

 

[LtKojak]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

I'd probably use the Demon coil at the neck side anyway.

That's what I thought.

Thank your, Frank! :wave:

 

[Fusion1]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

So the neck hybrid forum pickup never actually materialized? I thought there was supposed to be a v2.0 after the initial sounds were underwhelming when Pepe got one sent to Italy that we had to wait weeks for the outcome.

 

[Progbusters]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

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[Masta' C]

Re: What went wrong with the last Forum Design Pickup (fuglybucker)?

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