what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

[beaubrummels]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

By definition, in order for something to be a scientific discovery, it has to follow the scientific method. You have to posit a question ("What would happen if I placed an electric guitar pickup over the strings as well as under it?"), formulate a hypothesis ("The guitar will sound brighter." for example), test out your theory with an experiment that is easily copied and where only one variable is manipulated (the one variable being the addition of an extra pickup over the strings), observe the results, and then retest in order to see if those results were consistent or the result of a fluke.

Leevc5 followed the scientific method, therefore he made a scientific discovery.

Right. The hypothesis was he'd get twice as many sound options by doubling up pickups and the discovery was "it is not doing anything remotely like what I expected", and I think post #2 might be a clue why.

 

[Demanic]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

I still want to hear the results. Especially the off the hinge ones.

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[Johnny the Kid]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

Right. The hypothesis was he'd get twice as many sound options by doubling up pickups and the discovery was "it is not doing anything remotely like what I expected", and I think post #2 might be a clue why.

Hypotheses are proven wrong quite often after testing. The beauty of the scientific method is that we can take the new information we have and form a new hypothesis and start testing an exploring that new hypothesis. Post #2 may very well be a clue why it didn't sound anything like what he expected, but there's nothing that says that it couldn't be a sound that he hates and won't utilize anyways.

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

Ok. But if it were me, first I would fix the reverse stagger on the bridge saddles so the thing plays in tune, before trying to discover new tones with the neck pickup. But to each his own.

 

[Obsessive Compulsive]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

You never know, he might come up with something good.

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He already did. This would be number 1 in "World's Dumbest: The Most Thought-fool Invention of the 21st Century". Or maybe Seth MacFarlane can adapt this 'invention' to spice up Stewie's time machine.

 

[uOpt]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

I have been thinking about this for my pickup test recordings. A suction mount of some sorts. I wouldn't have regular mounted pickups, though.

The magnetic field issue probably has to be looked at on a pickup to pickup basis. If they don't have side-by-side bobbins then obviously you could pick polarity so that it adds, not cancels.

Humbuckers you could partially overlap so that two bobbins on top of each other add, the others being away from each other. I would expect that to work to a certain degree. If it didn't then a regular humbucker wouldn't work either.

 

[Aceman]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

How much Flux would Frank Falbo Flax if Frank Falbo Fluxed Fluence?

 

[Mincer]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

In a strange way, this is sort of how an Ebow works. I have 2 I use all the time.

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

The pickup over the strings will be out of phase with what it would be under the strings so you would have to reverse the leads or flip the magnet.

It also seems that with magnets below and above, whether repelling or attracting, it would really jack around with the strings' vibration and cut sustain a bit.

 

[Securb]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

 

[leevc5]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

Neck:
1.guitar neck only
2.guitar neck w/ uber pup off
3.guitar pup + uber pup
4.uber pup reversed
Bridge:
1. guitar bridge only
2.guitar bridge + uber pup off
3.guitar bridge + uber pup on
4.uber pup only
5.uber pup reversed
6.guitar bridge + reversed uber pup
or something like that, I didn't write it down before or during.
If one were to put an uber pup on each neck and bridge it would result in 384 tone options.
Whatever, I think it adds some nice tones. If I would have used different neck and bridge pups with much different tone characteristics it probably would have resulted in more significant tonal variations.
When I did my first quick check yesterday I had the bridge out of phase and in series switch on and that caused some very different and unlikable results.
None the less, I don't think I will be permanently installing on my guitar any time soon because it would obviously make difficult playing platform. Although, if you made a really long guitar pick you could overcome this restriction.
Maybe a single coil would be interesting.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzynxzGsN2WZeFZ6MjNYdHAtajg/view?usp=sharing

 

[JOLLY]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

how would you even play the thing?

First thing I thought of after I read the post.

 

[kramersteen]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

My 5 year old and i do science all the time. Just yesterday we mixed 5 kitchen items together and made slime.

This mod would go well with the raised epoxy fret. hehe

But honestly good on you for trying out something different.

 

[leevc5]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

My next experiment in théâtre de l'absurde will to be setting up a single coil on an adjustable stand to see what if any effect the angle of the uber pup has on the tone.

 

[leevc5]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

Next test single width rail pickup at 45, 90 and 135 degree angles over Humbucker neck then bridge:

 

[leevc5]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

I already recorded the baseline installed humbucker sounds in the previous sample so these are just sample of the installed and uber pup.
sound samples, single width rail pickup at 45, 90 and 135 degree angles over Humbucker neck then bridge:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzynxzGsN2WZRlk4Z1ZqRElZREE/view?usp=sharing
Seems as if the angle of a single width pup has more of an effect on the sound than the 90 degree only humbucker uber pup.

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

My next experiment in théâtre de l'absurde will to be setting up a single coil on an adjustable stand to see what if any effect the angle of the uber pup has on the tone.

I give you big credit for having a sense of humor about it. Kind of like it says in your sig, I think you've reached the jazz level of electromagnetic experimentation. : private:

 

[kramersteen]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

I tried 3 hotrails running horizontal under 6 strings once. So each rail was under one string. Didn't work. :friday:

 

[GoldenVulture]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

Why not just put a magnet in this and see if it has any effect and at what angles.[single width rail pickup at 45, 90 and 135 degree angles over Humbucker]In other words ,see what an added varying magnetic field does to the pup output.

 

[LtKojak]

Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

Why not just put a magnet in this and see if it has any effect and at what angles

Nooo... you told him!