eschoendorff
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Are they just coil/magnet pickups in a different package? Or is there something special about them?
What's special about Lace Sensors?
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The Drama Dude
Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
Hmmm... I dunno...
How about this then... when other pickup manufacturers decide to make designs as crazy as Lace does, then I'll say that there's nothing special about Lace. until then...well, they're innovators in every sense of the word.
Hmmm... I dunno...
How about this then... when other pickup manufacturers decide to make designs as crazy as Lace does, then I'll say that there's nothing special about Lace. until then...well, they're innovators in every sense of the word.
arellanon
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scottish
WeirdScienceologist
Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
they have virtually no string pull which means you can get them really close to the strings. they really sing there. they really nail the vintage strat tone (the golds and hot golds anyway) and are completely silent.
im a big fan of them.
they have virtually no string pull which means you can get them really close to the strings. they really sing there. they really nail the vintage strat tone (the golds and hot golds anyway) and are completely silent.
im a big fan of them.
marvelous_seven
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
I have Lace Alumitone humbuckers in my custom mahogany strat,and I have to tell you that they're really have natural sounding. It feels like putting your ears to guitar's body,cleans are brilliant and distorted really nail that Gibson PAF. It's true they've to adjust closer to the strings,and if you got that sweet spot your single notes will sing and sustain well.
IME,this pickups don't well suited to down tuning as I have right now. A bit muffled and bass are rather loose to my ears. Well maybe because my amp aren't tight enough too (I'm playing thru a Hughes Kettner combo 75w,IDK what type it is).
I wonder if Lace Sensor would sound like that too though..
I have Lace Alumitone humbuckers in my custom mahogany strat,and I have to tell you that they're really have natural sounding. It feels like putting your ears to guitar's body,cleans are brilliant and distorted really nail that Gibson PAF. It's true they've to adjust closer to the strings,and if you got that sweet spot your single notes will sing and sustain well.
IME,this pickups don't well suited to down tuning as I have right now. A bit muffled and bass are rather loose to my ears. Well maybe because my amp aren't tight enough too (I'm playing thru a Hughes Kettner combo 75w,IDK what type it is).
I wonder if Lace Sensor would sound like that too though..
Elfunkenstein
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
anyone tried the deathbucker yet?
anyone tried the deathbucker yet?
Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
I have a blue in the neck of my strat and silver in the middle.
As was said before, they have low string pull AND no dropouts when bending as the field is bigger. I like mine. I thought for awhile that they were kind of bland, but they get the job done just fine and have served well for years..
Id like to know about some of the new ones they have added, but I cant seem to find a list of the colors and their tone..
Like with the originals:
Gold is vintage
Silver is fat 70s style
Blue is bucker I think. Been along time..
Red is hot
I have a blue in the neck of my strat and silver in the middle.
As was said before, they have low string pull AND no dropouts when bending as the field is bigger. I like mine. I thought for awhile that they were kind of bland, but they get the job done just fine and have served well for years..
Id like to know about some of the new ones they have added, but I cant seem to find a list of the colors and their tone..
Like with the originals:
Gold is vintage
Silver is fat 70s style
Blue is bucker I think. Been along time..
Red is hot
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Funkfingers
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
Lace Sensors employ neither a conventional bar magnet nor individual rod magnet polepieces. Hence, the reduced string pull.
OTOH, they do not look like "normal" Fender Stratocaster. To some, this is sufficient grounds for rejection.
I used to own a Fender signature model guitar that came with Fender Lace Sensors. I currently own a modified Fender Am Std Stratocaster that is now fitted with Lace Sensors. The evidence would appear to suggest that I like these pickups.
Lace Sensors employ neither a conventional bar magnet nor individual rod magnet polepieces. Hence, the reduced string pull.
OTOH, they do not look like "normal" Fender Stratocaster. To some, this is sufficient grounds for rejection.
I used to own a Fender signature model guitar that came with Fender Lace Sensors. I currently own a modified Fender Am Std Stratocaster that is now fitted with Lace Sensors. The evidence would appear to suggest that I like these pickups.
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
The looks are actually the prime problem, which is one reason why they made the holy grails (also hum-canceling but have normal looking polepieces).
The Sensor Gold is very much vintage Strat glass but sweeter and smoother (but not Hifi). You can very much hear Blackmore in there, instantly.
The Holy Grail is closer to a regular Strat vintage pickup (e.g. SSL1) than the Sensor Gold, but much lower output than either. Maybe you can make good for it by bringing it even closer to the string.
The Sensor Golds will probably end up in my old Blazer after I make up my mind about the bridge.
The looks are actually the prime problem, which is one reason why they made the holy grails (also hum-canceling but have normal looking polepieces).
The Sensor Gold is very much vintage Strat glass but sweeter and smoother (but not Hifi). You can very much hear Blackmore in there, instantly.
The Holy Grail is closer to a regular Strat vintage pickup (e.g. SSL1) than the Sensor Gold, but much lower output than either. Maybe you can make good for it by bringing it even closer to the string.
The Sensor Golds will probably end up in my old Blazer after I make up my mind about the bridge.
SMark
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
The Hot Gold Lace Sensor has been my favorite pickup since it was introduced in early 2002. I have many sets of them. But my favorite amongst the different Hot Gold models is the 6k/6k Hot Gold Dually. Wire it to a coil splitter and you have 6k single & 12k Dually options for both the neck and the bridge. And you can add another 6k single in the middle for a Strat. The Dually is a super sweet pickup, listen to a few of my samples...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rInRtR8-TI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1nhy-kn3ew
The Hot Gold Lace Sensor has been my favorite pickup since it was introduced in early 2002. I have many sets of them. But my favorite amongst the different Hot Gold models is the 6k/6k Hot Gold Dually. Wire it to a coil splitter and you have 6k single & 12k Dually options for both the neck and the bridge. And you can add another 6k single in the middle for a Strat. The Dually is a super sweet pickup, listen to a few of my samples...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rInRtR8-TI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1nhy-kn3ew
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
Amen !
Really like the Alumitones :cool2:
Hmmm... I dunno...
How about this then... when other pickup manufacturers decide to make designs as crazy as Lace does, then I'll say that there's nothing special about Lace. until then...well, they're innovators in every sense of the word.
Amen !
Really like the Alumitones :cool2:
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
"Regular" humbucker :
Not so regular humbucker :
"Regular" humbucker :
Not so regular humbucker :
SMark
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
I also dig the AlumiTones. Here's a recording with my AlumiTone singles and a pic of my Strat...
http://marksmitchell.home.mindspring.com/AlumiTones.mp3
And here's a recording with my AlumiTone humbuckers along with a pic of the Strat I put them in...
http://marksmitchell7.home.mindspring.com/AlumiToneBuckerBlues.mp3
I also dig the AlumiTones. Here's a recording with my AlumiTone singles and a pic of my Strat...
http://marksmitchell.home.mindspring.com/AlumiTones.mp3
And here's a recording with my AlumiTone humbuckers along with a pic of the Strat I put them in...
http://marksmitchell7.home.mindspring.com/AlumiToneBuckerBlues.mp3
Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
Laces were introduced to the world through the Fender Strat Plus and the Eric Clapton Signature Strat in the later '80's. The Strat Plus originally came with the Golds but later, when the Strat Plus Deluxe came out, Blues and Silvers were debuted. Later Plus Deluxes used the Reds and some Strat models even featured dual/side-by-side Laces usually running through a small switch to go between paired and single operation (kind of like a coil tap on a humbucker).
Laces were introduced to the world through the Fender Strat Plus and the Eric Clapton Signature Strat in the later '80's. The Strat Plus originally came with the Golds but later, when the Strat Plus Deluxe came out, Blues and Silvers were debuted. Later Plus Deluxes used the Reds and some Strat models even featured dual/side-by-side Laces usually running through a small switch to go between paired and single operation (kind of like a coil tap on a humbucker).
Septemfluous
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
I have a Phoenix model Stephallen guitar with a pair Deathbuckers in it. This guitar also has a push/push coil tap With both pickups on and the coils tapped, these pickups almost sound like piezos. So crisp and clean. In dual coil mode (The pickups are noiseless in single and dual coil so it's not right to call it humbucking mode.) the sound is still pretty full range, with just a loss of 4th order harmonics making a slightly thicker sound. Also, these pickups don't change output from single to dual coil mode. The Alumitones don't actually have coils in them. They use aluminum brakes to create the same function as coils. Brilliant idea.
There's only one beef I have with Lace. They have absolutely NO customer service. I actually play 7 string basses. I spoke to Don and his brother at two different NAMM shows. I was asking about string spacing for some Alumitones for my bass. They absolutely would not return any of my emails or calls. I even told them that I didn't want the pickups for free. I would gladly pay for them. Still... no responses at all. They won't even reply to Stephallen, who used to be an OEM user of Lace. It's the whole reason Stephallen is moving away from Lace.
I asked Seymour Duncan if they could make a set of passive, high output pickups with a Jazz bass punch and an extended range. They said no, that can't be done. They told me a set of pickups would be over $600 and they would have to be used in an active setup. Strange... a set of Alumitones for 6 string are $240 for a set. Come on SD... I thought you could do better than that.
I have a Phoenix model Stephallen guitar with a pair Deathbuckers in it. This guitar also has a push/push coil tap With both pickups on and the coils tapped, these pickups almost sound like piezos. So crisp and clean. In dual coil mode (The pickups are noiseless in single and dual coil so it's not right to call it humbucking mode.) the sound is still pretty full range, with just a loss of 4th order harmonics making a slightly thicker sound. Also, these pickups don't change output from single to dual coil mode. The Alumitones don't actually have coils in them. They use aluminum brakes to create the same function as coils. Brilliant idea.
There's only one beef I have with Lace. They have absolutely NO customer service. I actually play 7 string basses. I spoke to Don and his brother at two different NAMM shows. I was asking about string spacing for some Alumitones for my bass. They absolutely would not return any of my emails or calls. I even told them that I didn't want the pickups for free. I would gladly pay for them. Still... no responses at all. They won't even reply to Stephallen, who used to be an OEM user of Lace. It's the whole reason Stephallen is moving away from Lace.
I asked Seymour Duncan if they could make a set of passive, high output pickups with a Jazz bass punch and an extended range. They said no, that can't be done. They told me a set of pickups would be over $600 and they would have to be used in an active setup. Strange... a set of Alumitones for 6 string are $240 for a set. Come on SD... I thought you could do better than that.
Rockstar216
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Re: What's special about Lace Sensors?
You might want to try these. If you liked the alumitones then you should really like these since the guy who made these actually helped designed the Lace stuff way back when.
http://wildepickups.com/Bass_Pickups.html
You might want to try these. If you liked the alumitones then you should really like these since the guy who made these actually helped designed the Lace stuff way back when.
http://wildepickups.com/Bass_Pickups.html
