astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Is it scooped?
what actually is the "brown" sound?
what actually is the "brown" sound?
Whats the brown sound like?
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kevlar3000
Bullet Proof Toneologist
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
Mids wide open. It is a description of the cranked plexi sound EVH had.
Mids wide open. It is a description of the cranked plexi sound EVH had.
Binnerscot
Well-known member
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
Yup, its all about chewing mids with a nice bright top end for bite and defintion while retaining the right amount of low end for to keep it from sounding thin or nasal. A Marshall is a almost a must for the sound (or a good clone/british amp sound). Lots dynamics with a stringy quality, which is why high output pups are not the first choice for that sound.
Yup, its all about chewing mids with a nice bright top end for bite and defintion while retaining the right amount of low end for to keep it from sounding thin or nasal. A Marshall is a almost a must for the sound (or a good clone/british amp sound). Lots dynamics with a stringy quality, which is why high output pups are not the first choice for that sound.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
example 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YRqkRmRocQ
example 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSeU-lDkiaE
example 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0JfoyFCHyM
example 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YRqkRmRocQ
example 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSeU-lDkiaE
example 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0JfoyFCHyM
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
mids wide open?
as in alot of mids, or the opposite?
mids wide open?
as in alot of mids, or the opposite?
Sludgenutz
New member
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
lotsa mids
lotsa mids
JohnnyGuitar
New member
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
Actually, as far as I know, Ed scooped his mids (not to 0 but a little less then the other two knobs). But it was done because his Plexi had enough mids as it was not because he went for the scooped tone...
Edit:
On most amps I would use more mids for brown sound. Actually I like mids for most guitar sounds.
Actually, as far as I know, Ed scooped his mids (not to 0 but a little less then the other two knobs). But it was done because his Plexi had enough mids as it was not because he went for the scooped tone...
Edit:
On most amps I would use more mids for brown sound. Actually I like mids for most guitar sounds.
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Majestic
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Re: Whats the brown sound like?
One "version" of the Brown Sound, which in my opinion had many variations up until 1991, when it was no longer Brown (as these ears hear it), sounds like the beginning and end of this clip. The middle 50% isn't bad either, but the more prime examples I feel are at the start and at the end.
http://www.funnymoneyband.com/sw/tubesclip1.mp3
Supposedly it's just a guy using a Pearly Gates through a cranked Plexi, but I can't recall exactly.
My favorite versions of the Brown Sound are on Van Halen II, and Women & Children First, which is about as warm & mushy a tone you can have while still spitting out attitude. 1984 is probably my favorite "polished" version of the tone.
One "version" of the Brown Sound, which in my opinion had many variations up until 1991, when it was no longer Brown (as these ears hear it), sounds like the beginning and end of this clip. The middle 50% isn't bad either, but the more prime examples I feel are at the start and at the end.
http://www.funnymoneyband.com/sw/tubesclip1.mp3
Supposedly it's just a guy using a Pearly Gates through a cranked Plexi, but I can't recall exactly.
My favorite versions of the Brown Sound are on Van Halen II, and Women & Children First, which is about as warm & mushy a tone you can have while still spitting out attitude. 1984 is probably my favorite "polished" version of the tone.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
yeah just add "jape" lol.
so, basically, everything cranked?
yeah just add "jape" lol.
so, basically, everything cranked?
Stratovarious
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Re: Whats the brown sound like?
well that kicked ****ing ass.
the brown sound is the love child of a paf into a plexi sizzled until the tubes meltedddd!
some of the most serious BROWNAGE is on VH2 and Women and Children First, it got a tad bassier and the detune effect was used abit more in Fair Warning, but only on a few songs
well that kicked ****ing ass.
the brown sound is the love child of a paf into a plexi sizzled until the tubes meltedddd!
some of the most serious BROWNAGE is on VH2 and Women and Children First, it got a tad bassier and the detune effect was used abit more in Fair Warning, but only on a few songs
tubeman87
New member
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
Read The most current issue of Guitar World Mag. (the one w/EVH on the cover) In the issue Eddie himself de-bunks any myths of amp mods and how he gets his "Brown" sound. Which (coming from eddie) comes from STOCK, yes Stock Marshall heads with every knob wide open, every thing on 10.
Not much to it.
Read The most current issue of Guitar World Mag. (the one w/EVH on the cover) In the issue Eddie himself de-bunks any myths of amp mods and how he gets his "Brown" sound. Which (coming from eddie) comes from STOCK, yes Stock Marshall heads with every knob wide open, every thing on 10.
Not much to it.
Virtual Kevorkian
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Re: Whats the brown sound like?
Nah, it's Alex's snare drum on the first album, IIRC.
Nah, it's Alex's snare drum on the first album, IIRC.
Stratovarious
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Re: Whats the brown sound like?
:bowdown: :smack:
that was the sound Eddie wanted his guitar to sound like.
:bowdown: :smack:
that was the sound Eddie wanted his guitar to sound like.
bryvincent
New member
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
Marshall plexi w/ variac set to approx 90 volts
Marshall plexi w/ variac set to approx 90 volts
Stevo
Tonus Maximus Pacificas
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
Somebody gimme a doctor!! :smokin:
Somebody gimme a doctor!! :smokin:
Dirty and sweet.
Soujurn
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Re: Whats the brown sound like?
I read Eddie's latest article too where he supposedly debunks many of the myths. Knowing Eddy (not in person, just his printed words), who is to say he isn't BS'ing everyone now?
I think he'll say anything at anytime. Whatever comes into his head. I take EVERYTHING he says with a grain of salt. Then I just stick in a CD and curse the guitar gods for making him sound like that and me sound like poo. LOL!
I read Eddie's latest article too where he supposedly debunks many of the myths. Knowing Eddy (not in person, just his printed words), who is to say he isn't BS'ing everyone now?
I think he'll say anything at anytime. Whatever comes into his head. I take EVERYTHING he says with a grain of salt. Then I just stick in a CD and curse the guitar gods for making him sound like that and me sound like poo. LOL!
devastone
Well-known member
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
"The" Marshall also had Sylvania 6CA7 output tubes which are more hi-fi sounding and harder than EL34s. They didn't mush out when everything was cranked, I'm definitely in the Marshall camp vs the Mesa camp, but EL34s can get a little mushy when pushed too hard, I run EH 6CA7s in my Trace head and really like them.
"The" Marshall also had Sylvania 6CA7 output tubes which are more hi-fi sounding and harder than EL34s. They didn't mush out when everything was cranked, I'm definitely in the Marshall camp vs the Mesa camp, but EL34s can get a little mushy when pushed too hard, I run EH 6CA7s in my Trace head and really like them.
Majestic
New member
Re: Whats the brown sound like?
I too think the tone on "You Really Got Me" is absolutely horrid. Same for "Eruption". Eddie apparently agrees, as since he "gained power" by the 2nd album, his tone had considerably less treble/brightness added at the mixing board. Something about those 2 tracks is way too bright.
But, who am I to say? Many, many people love the tone on that album.
I personally hate it. Hated it ever since I received it as a Christmas gift in 1989. I remember thinking, "gosh, Eddie sounds horrible. THIS is how Eruption sounds?"
Like I said earlier, VHII, Women & Children First, and 1984 are probably my favorite sounding albums.
As Curt Mitchell once said, "......warm & mushy, yet all at the same time *tight*......."
Eddie never cut you with a knife, let alone a sword.....he always whacked you in the back with a giant brown log, and then dazzled you with edgeless stars.
I too think the tone on "You Really Got Me" is absolutely horrid. Same for "Eruption". Eddie apparently agrees, as since he "gained power" by the 2nd album, his tone had considerably less treble/brightness added at the mixing board. Something about those 2 tracks is way too bright.
But, who am I to say? Many, many people love the tone on that album.
I personally hate it. Hated it ever since I received it as a Christmas gift in 1989. I remember thinking, "gosh, Eddie sounds horrible. THIS is how Eruption sounds?"
Like I said earlier, VHII, Women & Children First, and 1984 are probably my favorite sounding albums.
As Curt Mitchell once said, "......warm & mushy, yet all at the same time *tight*......."
Eddie never cut you with a knife, let alone a sword.....he always whacked you in the back with a giant brown log, and then dazzled you with edgeless stars.
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