What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
“Hoo-Hah”?
It’s only worth it to those who’ve paid the money and not regretted it.
“Hoo-Hah”?
It’s only worth it to those who’ve paid the money and not regretted it.
PFDarkside
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
What does the Tube Screamer, Fuzz Face, Big Muff, Distortion+/DS-1 or Rat do?
Makes a guitar tone a lot of guitarists like?
As Bill says it was designed to make a Fender on 3 sound like a Fender on 6.
What does the Tube Screamer, Fuzz Face, Big Muff, Distortion+/DS-1 or Rat do?
Makes a guitar tone a lot of guitarists like?
As Bill says it was designed to make a Fender on 3 sound like a Fender on 6.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
What does the Tube Screamer, Fuzz Face, Big Muff, Distortion+/DS-1 or Rat not do?
Cost $3,000. Also, neither are built by a man with "magic" diodes or a circuit board conceiled by epoxy.
What does the Tube Screamer, Fuzz Face, Big Muff, Distortion+/DS-1 or Rat not do?
Cost $3,000. Also, neither are built by a man with "magic" diodes or a circuit board conceiled by epoxy.
PFDarkside
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
They were (and still are) ~$265 new. Do you blame Gibson that second hand ‘59’Bursts are approaching $500,000?
Vintage Tube Screamers and Big Muffs are going for over $1000 now too.
If LLL is asking if the circuit belongs in the list of classic effects, the only answer is “yes”, based on how many people have cloned it and how many players have originals and clones on their board. If he’s asking if they are worth the used price, all one can say is supply and demand.
They were (and still are) ~$265 new. Do you blame Gibson that second hand ‘59’Bursts are approaching $500,000?
Vintage Tube Screamers and Big Muffs are going for over $1000 now too.
If LLL is asking if the circuit belongs in the list of classic effects, the only answer is “yes”, based on how many people have cloned it and how many players have originals and clones on their board. If he’s asking if they are worth the used price, all one can say is supply and demand.
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Lewguitar
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
It comes down to playing style and both the way you shape the note when you pick and the way you hold and shape and add vibrato at the moment you pick and then after to appreciate what the Klon does better than any other pedal.
Just listen to Jeff Beck. He uses a Klon and it’s amazing the way he coaxes so many sounds out of his guitar. He’s a real tone shaper.
If your playing style incorporates a lot of that, you’ll “get” what the Klon does.
If your playing style doesn’t...then you probably won’t.
It comes down to playing style and both the way you shape the note when you pick and the way you hold and shape and add vibrato at the moment you pick and then after to appreciate what the Klon does better than any other pedal.
Just listen to Jeff Beck. He uses a Klon and it’s amazing the way he coaxes so many sounds out of his guitar. He’s a real tone shaper.
If your playing style incorporates a lot of that, you’ll “get” what the Klon does.
If your playing style doesn’t...then you probably won’t.
Lewguitar
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
I wouldn’t pay crazy prices for an original Klon. Not if the Klon KTR sounds the same...and I think it does.
The Klon KTR sounds better than the clones I’ve owned and can still be had for around $300...but the prices are going up.
I have two. One for my little pedalboard and one for my larger one.
The Soul Food sounds really good...about 90 or 95% as good as PCE Aluminum Falcon clones I owned.
But the KTR is warmer and more organic feeling than either.
The Aluminum Falcon from PCE sounds slightly better than the Soul Food, and the Klon KTR sounds and feels better than either.
And the Klon is all about feel. The way the notes feel as you’re squeezing them out and shaping them with your picking hand and fretting hand.
I wouldn’t pay crazy prices for an original Klon. Not if the Klon KTR sounds the same...and I think it does.
The Klon KTR sounds better than the clones I’ve owned and can still be had for around $300...but the prices are going up.
I have two. One for my little pedalboard and one for my larger one.
The Soul Food sounds really good...about 90 or 95% as good as PCE Aluminum Falcon clones I owned.
But the KTR is warmer and more organic feeling than either.
The Aluminum Falcon from PCE sounds slightly better than the Soul Food, and the Klon KTR sounds and feels better than either.
And the Klon is all about feel. The way the notes feel as you’re squeezing them out and shaping them with your picking hand and fretting hand.
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JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
I saw a guitarist recently using an original Tubescreamer and an Archer through an old BF Super Reverb. When he turned them on together, my jaw hit the floor.
Somewhat similarly, I’m now using a Green Rhino and a Soul Food into an old SF Super. Both pedals together with a Fender on either end really does it for me.
I saw a guitarist recently using an original Tubescreamer and an Archer through an old BF Super Reverb. When he turned them on together, my jaw hit the floor.
Somewhat similarly, I’m now using a Green Rhino and a Soul Food into an old SF Super. Both pedals together with a Fender on either end really does it for me.
LLL
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
Gotcha.
I'm a big fan of true (not the fake ones by Dunlop, etc) EP-3 preamps (NOS TIS58 chip @ 24V); I have two.
They add a nice texture ("grit") to the tone as well as a particular nice EQ shape.
Does the Klon do similar?
Gotcha.
I'm a big fan of true (not the fake ones by Dunlop, etc) EP-3 preamps (NOS TIS58 chip @ 24V); I have two.
They add a nice texture ("grit") to the tone as well as a particular nice EQ shape.
Does the Klon do similar?
LLL
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
No, I'm asking specifically what the heck does it do to one's tone.
No, I'm asking specifically what the heck does it do to one's tone.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
VFE had these before they changed over. I'm sure they're not hard to find used for a very reasonable price.
http://www.vfepedals.com/merman.html
edit; actually i can't seem to locate any right now,,,,,,and it looks like people are starting to jack-up the prices on his older models,,,,darnit.
VFE had these before they changed over. I'm sure they're not hard to find used for a very reasonable price.
http://www.vfepedals.com/merman.html
edit; actually i can't seem to locate any right now,,,,,,and it looks like people are starting to jack-up the prices on his older models,,,,darnit.
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Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
Like a Maxon Organic Overdrive. Or a number of pedals. Except 2900 dollars more.
Full Disclosure: NOT a Klon owner, or even ever played one. Don't know don't care. If it works for you great. There is no pedal that expensive that I can't find that does the same thing well enough for me for less than $150. YMMV....
Like a Maxon Organic Overdrive. Or a number of pedals. Except 2900 dollars more.
Full Disclosure: NOT a Klon owner, or even ever played one. Don't know don't care. If it works for you great. There is no pedal that expensive that I can't find that does the same thing well enough for me for less than $150. YMMV....
ThisDyingSoul76
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
I love how when I run my klones with the right setting they thicken
up the mids with a slight lower mid bump and also just the right amount if Treble go give some cutting ability. Where many seem to use it to push a clean or slightly dirty amp to a nice crunch, I like to push a crunchy amp for a saturated lead tone.
I love how when I run my klones with the right setting they thicken
up the mids with a slight lower mid bump and also just the right amount if Treble go give some cutting ability. Where many seem to use it to push a clean or slightly dirty amp to a nice crunch, I like to push a crunchy amp for a saturated lead tone.
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JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
If you’re into high gain, Klones probably aren’t going to be your thing.
If you’re into stacking dirt of various types for grittier tones, you might dig one.
If you’re into high gain, Klones probably aren’t going to be your thing.
If you’re into stacking dirt of various types for grittier tones, you might dig one.
Lewguitar
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
Forget the overpriced Klons. Just look for a used Klon KTR. Same pedal, built by the designer, Bill Finnegan, and around $300. And worth it.
Forget the overpriced Klons. Just look for a used Klon KTR. Same pedal, built by the designer, Bill Finnegan, and around $300. And worth it.
Lewguitar
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Re: What's With All The Klon Hoo-Hah
More than one way to skin a cat.
Most of my favorite guitarists get their sound without a Klon.
Jeff Beck used a Rat for decades. I couldn’t bond with one myself.
But I did immediately bond with the Klon.
And with my souped up TS-808, the Visual Sound Route 808.
And especially with my Dumble Amp in a pedal, the Mad Professor Simble.
Whatever works. Whatever you feel like hearing on any given day.
More than one way to skin a cat.
Most of my favorite guitarists get their sound without a Klon.
Jeff Beck used a Rat for decades. I couldn’t bond with one myself.
But I did immediately bond with the Klon.
And with my souped up TS-808, the Visual Sound Route 808.
And especially with my Dumble Amp in a pedal, the Mad Professor Simble.
Whatever works. Whatever you feel like hearing on any given day.
