What’s your preferred controls

big kurka

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So I’m getting ready install a set of the Gus g blackouts in a guitar with only 3 controls and I’m wondering what I should make the third control, The other 2 will be volume controls. I’m debating wether I should do a bass roll off or maybe a monetary kill switch button. I don’t really see a need for a regular tone control being this guitar will be hard rock metal guitar.
Anyways what controls do you prefer and why???
 
I had a Strat once and I ended up removing one of the knobs and making it master tone/volume. I gave that guitar to a friend. All my guitars are 2 pickup. And either 2 or 4 knobs. I like symmetry like that. I can't handle a guitar with 3 pickups or 3 knobs. It would trigger my OCD. :D
 
We were having this conversation last night. It really depends on the guitar and what I use it for. My black strat with single Black Winter has a single VOL with a stutter switch. I use that guitar for metal/hard rock. My Les Pauls are wired traditional, and I will use the neck tone here and there for classic rock stuff. My midi Parker looks like a NASA control panel.
 
FWIW, a "bass roll off" control is usually based on series caps and some circuits like fuzz pedals dislike that.

A possibility is to pair a normal tone control with other components than the usual tone caps. These other components can be...

-LOW value capacitors, favoring the high mids: 2,2nF, or 4,7nF, or 10nF for a cocked wah tone. Pete Willis had such a thing in his Hamer Explorer for the first Def Lep albums;

-a pair of diodes for a bit more dirt when engaged. The effect is really subtle but gives more harmonic richness and it can be a bonus in some cases;

-an inductor, with or without added cap(s) and resistor(s). See the Bill Lawrence Q filter for instance. Can give fake acoustic guitar tones or 2d/4th position Strat sounds if wired with components of the proper value (depending themselves on the pickups used);

Non limitative list: many things can be done by manipulating LRC specs through a non typical use of "tone" pots. The only downside is that most of the effect is noticeable only when the pot is next to 0 or next to 10. Reason why a simple on/off switch might be a better idea for tone filters like those that I evoke above.

Good luck in your choice and enjoy.
 
My usual setup is twin humbuckers with two pots, one being a push-pull volume knob closer to my picking hand, switching between series/parallel wiring on the neck pickup.
 
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on a three pup strat, i like mv/mt, usually with a switch in the middle. if its three vintage output single coils, then its a series switch for the bridge and middle pups. if its three humbuckers (hot rails for example) ill put a 4pdt on/on/on for the neck and bridge pups to get series/split/parallel for a wider variety of tones.

for two bucker guitars, i prefer dual volume, dual tone. if there are three controls, ill do neck volume, bridge volume, bridge tone. if there are two its either mv/mt or i use concentric pots to get dual volume/dual tone in two holes.

i dont really have use for a kill switch, but some people like em. bass roll off can be cool, but i like to use fuzzface type pedals and it messes things up there so i dont usually go for those. if you dont use fuzz pedals, then bass roll off can be great to tighten things up
 
Geez Louis, did any of you guys even read the prompt?

I'd say a arcade button style kill switch would probably serve you best.
 
On a guitar with 3 pots, my usual approach is to block-off/eliminate the pot closest to my picking hand (toss a hole plug in it) and do a simple volume/tone arrangement. I suppose adding a kill switch/button is decent option in lieu of eliminating the third control completely. I like to have at least one push/pull pot for splitting, etc, but with your Gus G set, that isn't an option, so I would keep it simple.
 
If you don't need tone and you have a thick, fat guitar, then a base roll off is one of the most useful controls you'll ever use. I use mine to thin down thickness and take me just below crunch.

So when you roll the bass back in you get immediate thickness and crunch.
 
FWIW, a "bass roll off" control is usually based on series caps and some circuits like fuzz pedals dislike that.

The pedals that won't like a series bass cap probably won't like the active signal to begin with, so the change of impedance with a cap is negligible.
 
The pedals that won't like a series bass cap probably won't like the active signal to begin with, so the change of impedance with a cap is negligible.

My bad, I hadn't seen the project was about active pickups. :-P

That's what happens when one reads and answers hastily. Maybe my rambling will be less useless for those who use passive pickups. :-)
 
I wired this up last night. Every type of hum woohoo. No clank, no slop. It has a 250k volume and a neck/bridge blender. The hum is an 84 JB with a double thick A2 and the Dmz is a Cruiser.

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Well after thinking about it and reading the post I think I’m going to throw in a stutter/kill switch or at least start off with that.
Thank everyone for your opinions.
 
Well after thinking about it and reading the post I think I’m going to throw in a stutter/kill switch or at least start off with that.
Thank everyone for your opinions.

If the three controls are in a straight line, I'd probably arrange them as volume / stutter / tone.
 
Volume, neck/middle tone, bridge tone. I always dial my amp sound with more highs than needed and dial the guitar tone back a bit. I then only play with my guitar tone if I want more/less high for the situation.
 
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