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Which amp did you like the most ?
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dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
Tossup between the Dual Rec and TBX 150. The VS 8200 was total Cannibal Corpse though. I'll have to play my TBX 150 some more.
Considering you can get the TBX for about 1/4 the price of the Dual Rec, it gets my vote.
They really should have used a different poweramp for the preamps though. An EL34 loaded poweramp is going to sound much different than the 6L6s that I'm pretty sure all the other tube amps had. I've been really considering grabbing a Mesa preamp one of these days.
Tossup between the Dual Rec and TBX 150. The VS 8200 was total Cannibal Corpse though. I'll have to play my TBX 150 some more.
Considering you can get the TBX for about 1/4 the price of the Dual Rec, it gets my vote.They really should have used a different poweramp for the preamps though. An EL34 loaded poweramp is going to sound much different than the 6L6s that I'm pretty sure all the other tube amps had. I've been really considering grabbing a Mesa preamp one of these days.
TheLivingDead
Dawn Of The Shred
Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
Peavey 6505
Yayuh.
Peavey 6505
Yayuh.
Phantasmagoria
watch where you point that sabre
Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
Soldano ...followed by the Dual Rec ...& then the Engl Invader.
Soldano ...followed by the Dual Rec ...& then the Engl Invader.
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
WOW . . . go Hot Rod !
WOW . . . go Hot Rod !
Kramer Guy
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Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
I would go with the Peavey.
I would go with the Peavey.
misterwhizzy
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Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
I just love the Soldano voicing. He really figured it out, and I have to give it to his amplifiers. I love 'em.
I just love the Soldano voicing. He really figured it out, and I have to give it to his amplifiers. I love 'em.
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
For me it came down to the 6505 and the Hot Rod 50; the Hot Rod 50 was voiced just a little bit more aggressive for that metal sound which I liked a lot. The Peavey really held it's own against the competition.
For me it came down to the 6505 and the Hot Rod 50; the Hot Rod 50 was voiced just a little bit more aggressive for that metal sound which I liked a lot. The Peavey really held it's own against the competition.
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SirJackdeFuzz
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vinta9e
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Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
Now, even though you put the preamp gain on full blast and it goes to 11, bass at 9, mids at 1.5, treble at 6, master volume at 3 presence at 7.5, and plugged in an untuned guitar, you still haven't succeeded in making the Soldano sound bad. :laugh2:
The treble clarity speaks for itself. No cloudiness, graininess, blanket-on-cabinet, or trampled cockroaches noises here.
At just fifty watts, it is not quite fit enough to crank solid sounding low-A fundamentals into those cones, it wasn't designed with that in mind... c'mon, 55Hz is bass register. I guess an over-one-hundred watt power section (and a K-100 loaded cab, ideally) would be more appropriate for well-defined tones in that range.
Just check out how clear the triple rec stays on the lowest notes. That's exactly the reason to build 150w power sections.
No wonder these were Korn's amps of choice. Consistent and not bad overall, though the second riff reveals some fizzy treble.
The Dual Rec sounds like farting under a thick duvet. It's debatable whether blanketed treble is better than fizz. The transients aren't there. That's why I recommend using an OD808 in front and so does Ola Englund.
Now let's talk about the second riff for a moment - which is all about note definition in distorted chords. That's where Soldanos shine IMO, which is why I like to use them as reference amps.
The solid state Valvestate did sound actually surprisingly good to me. Maybe a little flat and thin but consistent throughout. The Ibanez sounds over-gained and dirty, lacking definition.
The Studio Preamp sounds like a radio transmission from the space station; incoherent, muddy, raspy static. So bad, I am almost sorry if you bought one.
The Invader had a good, tight start but sounded somehow absent and hollow in the second section. I'd try to dial in more mids, lose the treble (almost) completely and use it to thicken up the Soldano while praying for cooperation. Or maybe even pair it with the VS.
The 530 seems to have a similar gain structure to the Invader but with the 9100 things seem a little flat, screechy and lacking balls. Pity, cause it's free of the Invader's weird, tubular quality in the second riff. I'd try the 530 with a mighty Mesa poweramp.
The Peavey sounds the most midrangy of all... and really really compressed, and not very clear... uh guuys, did you use the red channel? The golden-eared, egg-headed people from Andy Sneap's forum say the red channel is verboten and yov mvst vse ze green channel for riffs becavse it is tyghtr.
Still ain't a bad try.
The Waves digital modeler which otherwise sounded really flat and dry, was quite precise. I guess it could blend nicely with the blunt punch of the Dual Rec.
Thank you for your attention. :friday:
Now, even though you put the preamp gain on full blast and it goes to 11, bass at 9, mids at 1.5, treble at 6, master volume at 3 presence at 7.5, and plugged in an untuned guitar, you still haven't succeeded in making the Soldano sound bad. :laugh2:
The treble clarity speaks for itself. No cloudiness, graininess, blanket-on-cabinet, or trampled cockroaches noises here.
At just fifty watts, it is not quite fit enough to crank solid sounding low-A fundamentals into those cones, it wasn't designed with that in mind... c'mon, 55Hz is bass register. I guess an over-one-hundred watt power section (and a K-100 loaded cab, ideally) would be more appropriate for well-defined tones in that range.
Just check out how clear the triple rec stays on the lowest notes. That's exactly the reason to build 150w power sections.
No wonder these were Korn's amps of choice. Consistent and not bad overall, though the second riff reveals some fizzy treble.
The Dual Rec sounds like farting under a thick duvet. It's debatable whether blanketed treble is better than fizz. The transients aren't there. That's why I recommend using an OD808 in front and so does Ola Englund.
Now let's talk about the second riff for a moment - which is all about note definition in distorted chords. That's where Soldanos shine IMO, which is why I like to use them as reference amps.
The solid state Valvestate did sound actually surprisingly good to me. Maybe a little flat and thin but consistent throughout. The Ibanez sounds over-gained and dirty, lacking definition.
The Studio Preamp sounds like a radio transmission from the space station; incoherent, muddy, raspy static. So bad, I am almost sorry if you bought one.
The Invader had a good, tight start but sounded somehow absent and hollow in the second section. I'd try to dial in more mids, lose the treble (almost) completely and use it to thicken up the Soldano while praying for cooperation. Or maybe even pair it with the VS.
The 530 seems to have a similar gain structure to the Invader but with the 9100 things seem a little flat, screechy and lacking balls. Pity, cause it's free of the Invader's weird, tubular quality in the second riff. I'd try the 530 with a mighty Mesa poweramp.
The Peavey sounds the most midrangy of all... and really really compressed, and not very clear... uh guuys, did you use the red channel? The golden-eared, egg-headed people from Andy Sneap's forum say the red channel is verboten and yov mvst vse ze green channel for riffs becavse it is tyghtr.
Still ain't a bad try.
The Waves digital modeler which otherwise sounded really flat and dry, was quite precise. I guess it could blend nicely with the blunt punch of the Dual Rec.
Thank you for your attention. :friday:
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
No, Thank You ...for your thoughts and insight into all of this !
Cheers
No, Thank You ...for your thoughts and insight into all of this !
Cheers
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
I'd go with the Dual Rec and Soldano Hot Rod. A few of them had a slightly annoying hollow boxy thing happening on the root note.
I'd love to hear an XTC, Uberschall, Diezel Herbert, and Soldano Avenger in a row with them.
It would have been nice to hear some lead licks over the top of it too, just to see how that aspect compares.
I'd go with the Dual Rec and Soldano Hot Rod. A few of them had a slightly annoying hollow boxy thing happening on the root note.
I'd love to hear an XTC, Uberschall, Diezel Herbert, and Soldano Avenger in a row with them.
It would have been nice to hear some lead licks over the top of it too, just to see how that aspect compares.
Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
I'm gonna disagree with you in that not ALL of them sounded like poo, BUT that brings up a different point altogether.
How many high gain amp demos can YouTube possibly have? It seems like all the best shootouts are of high-gain stuff being played that way.
...Here's an Axe FX, capable of sounding like almost anything, in HIGH GAIN MODE and we made it sound like a Mesa and a Deizel and a Bogner and an ENGL!!
...Here's a bunch of gold standard high gain amps and this demo is just like the last one but this time WE USED A SEVEN STRING TUNED TO A!!!
...Here's the difference between a Deluxe Reverb and a Bassman WITH A KEELEY MODDED METAL ZONE RAAAAAAGH!!
It just seems like a ton of these amp shootouts are geared for the high gain crowd, which probably represents a smaller portion of the guitar playing population than you'd think. Why aren't more people exploring shootouts geared for cleans, or mid-gain stuff? Like... Here's a "Mojave Peacemaker up against a competitor from Kendrick."
I'm not saying I don't like the high gain shootouts. I do, and they're useful for my purposes, but it just seems like there's a whole other world of tones that are getting ignored here.
I'm gonna disagree with you in that not ALL of them sounded like poo, BUT that brings up a different point altogether.
How many high gain amp demos can YouTube possibly have? It seems like all the best shootouts are of high-gain stuff being played that way.
...Here's an Axe FX, capable of sounding like almost anything, in HIGH GAIN MODE and we made it sound like a Mesa and a Deizel and a Bogner and an ENGL!!
...Here's a bunch of gold standard high gain amps and this demo is just like the last one but this time WE USED A SEVEN STRING TUNED TO A!!!
...Here's the difference between a Deluxe Reverb and a Bassman WITH A KEELEY MODDED METAL ZONE RAAAAAAGH!!
It just seems like a ton of these amp shootouts are geared for the high gain crowd, which probably represents a smaller portion of the guitar playing population than you'd think. Why aren't more people exploring shootouts geared for cleans, or mid-gain stuff? Like... Here's a "Mojave Peacemaker up against a competitor from Kendrick."
I'm not saying I don't like the high gain shootouts. I do, and they're useful for my purposes, but it just seems like there's a whole other world of tones that are getting ignored here.
JeffB
Let it B
Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
That is where my head was at first, but really it is just that that style of playing, and drop whatever tuning is what sounds like poo to ky ears. I am sure the amps would sound fine in a style I prefer, though I may not care for the tone any given amp delivers.
I voted Engl preamp..I thought it as well as the other Engl and Soldano had the most complexity when the ringing chords were played towards the end of each sample. I ignored the rubber band stuff on each sample.
That is where my head was at first, but really it is just that that style of playing, and drop whatever tuning is what sounds like poo to ky ears. I am sure the amps would sound fine in a style I prefer, though I may not care for the tone any given amp delivers.
I voted Engl preamp..I thought it as well as the other Engl and Soldano had the most complexity when the ringing chords were played towards the end of each sample. I ignored the rubber band stuff on each sample.
Re: Which amp did you like the most ?
Of all of them, the Marshall power amp was the most palatable to me - likely because it wasn't trying to compete with the bass freqs so much and it's mids were the least cartoonish. That Peavey was hilariously bad.
I dunno - I like dynamics, not so much compression. These amps while the majority of them were tube-driven you'd never know it by the clips. I actually voted for the GTR because IMO it was the most impressive - it sounded at least as good if not better in most cases than the amps did to me.
Of all of them, the Marshall power amp was the most palatable to me - likely because it wasn't trying to compete with the bass freqs so much and it's mids were the least cartoonish. That Peavey was hilariously bad.
I dunno - I like dynamics, not so much compression. These amps while the majority of them were tube-driven you'd never know it by the clips. I actually voted for the GTR because IMO it was the most impressive - it sounded at least as good if not better in most cases than the amps did to me.
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