Which Amps would you suggest me?

KeeperOS

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Hi, recently I got a new guitar and did a major upgrade in my old Strat so now came the time for a new amp.

Currently I have the Line 6 Spider II 30, which means I don't have an amp :9:

What I'm aiming at is an amp that does a cool blues and a wicked jazz but its' primary function would be a warm 80s Rock/Metal tone.
I'm talking AOR, Glam, traditional Heavy, classic Heavy/Power. The gained/overdriven channel should deliver a good warm crunchy yet muscular tone. Not the mid heavy Thrash/Death and whatnot stuff.

As for the price, I can't really give a definite answer on that, I don't want to miss getting EXACTLY what I want for a couple of hundreds. Just keep in mind that it will be almost exclusively for home use and that the price should be down to earth.

A couple that I got to hear but not yet played with my own axes and liked enough were B-52's AT-112 and Randall's RG50T. The B-52 was better overall but the Randal seemed designed exactly for what I was looking for (plus it was 150 euros cheaper).

Although they both are all tube amps I'm not necessarily looking for a tube, if an analog with transistors would fit the bill I'd be cool with that too.

Thanks!

EDIT: To clarify. Shape/size wise just a 20x20" (roughly 50x50 cm, or a little larger ) combo amp is fine! Remember it will go in my room and the line 6 (it has a 12" speaker) barely fits as it is!

It doesn't have to be a head and cabin, it doesn't HAVE to be tube, it just has to have a good warm 80s tone and be mostly space conscious. but it has to have a "real" sounding good warm tone, not the digital mid heavy tone the Line 6 has.
Take the B-52 and the Randal I mentioned for instance, size wise they're all I want!
 
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Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Alot of people LOVE Laney AOR's and Sovtek MIG-50H's for 80's stuff. I know that the guy from RATT used a Laney AOR on one of their albums. Those twoare pretty much JCM800 knockoffs, so you might want to boos with an SD-1 or something. Also, I have no experience with them, but I've seen alot of 80's guys using Carvin X100-b's.
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Alot of people LOVE Laney AOR's and Sovtek MIG-50H's for 80's stuff. I know that the guy from RATT used a Laney AOR on one of their albums. Those twoare pretty much JCM800 knockoffs, so you might want to boos with an SD-1 or something. Also, I have no experience with them, but I've seen alot of 80's guys using Carvin X100-b's.
Nope, its the Pro-tube that is a clone, Pro-Tube AOR is a 4 ECC83 pre-amp with EFX loops and push pull boosts on EQ, AOR II has seperate pre-amp controls and the circuit is not a JCM800 clone like Pro-Tube was.
Keeper,
Besides RATT AOR were used by Savatage on their 3 best albums. Zero the Hero by Sabbath was done with it too. I understand Sleep used them too. I love mine. They are really tube finicky, you can get real totally different tones with different tubes.
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Guys, I have to tell you that I just started to get more serious about amps and still don't know much about brands/models.
Now I can't find the AOR at Laney's site. Keep in mind that the chances of finding a discontinued amp in Greece are next to none so...
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

What I'm aiming at is an amp that does a cool blues and a wicked jazz but its' primary function would be a warm 80s Rock/Metal tone.
I'm talking AOR, Glam, traditional Heavy, classic Heavy/Power. The gained/overdriven channel should deliver a good warm crunchy yet muscular tone. Not the mid heavy Thrash/Death and whatnot stuff.


Thanks!

I say you are all over the place. and you only want to play at home? you'll never get a bedroom tone crunch without turning it up with a tube amp! You should look at the vox valvetronix. otherwise your line 6 is gonna beat out any tube amp. I had a marshall jcm800 2203 half stack and boy did it sound horrible without any volume!
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

I think you misread my post.

Primarily it will be for 80s Rock/Metal tones but it SHOULD be able to deliver a descent Jazz/Blues tone, not that it should be equally good at both or that it could possibly compare to a Jazz/Blues specific amp.

As for tubes, no, I said I'm not looking exclusively for tube exactly because I know they need to be opened up to deliver. I know there are a couple that are for home use (like the afore mentioned Randal) and use various ways to limit the spread of the sound while being opened up enough. But I'm not holding my breath on finding one that would have it all...

In the end I don't think it's that hard to get a good bedroom tone from a 30-60 (maybe 100) watt amp. But maybe I'm just totting my ignorance...

EDIT: Completely off topic but it's my thread so who gives a ***.
Happy Dude I just saw your sig, I think you're gonna like this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aiqkDm9UoKo
 
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For home use only? ... Must you only have a head and cab as preference? Otherwise, for cool blues/jazz stuff and 80's buttrock, you'd probably be better off getting a smallish Fender tube amp and just spank it with a Crunch Box, Box of Rock, or something similar. It would save you some bucks and space, and probably sound better than a half stack that's barely cracked open.
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Guys, no 4x12" stacks, no huge heads, just a 20x20" (roughly 50x50 cm, or a little larger ) combo is fine! I said it will go in my room and the line 6 (it has a 12" speaker) barely fits as it is!

It doesn't have to be a head and cabin, it doesn't HAVE to be tube, it just has to have a good warm 80s tone and be mostly space conscious. Just as long as it sounds organic, not digital like the Line 6.
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

I'd look at an 18w marshall clone of some kind. Perhaps a ceriatone.

You sure don't need any more than 20w if you're going to go tube.
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Could you be more specific? I just started looking into amps and I still know next to nothing about brands/models and the like. Imagine in guitars a guy that only knows what the Fender Stratocaster and the Gibson Les Paul are, knows nothing about the Tele or the SG, doesn't have a clue what Epiphone or Schecter are and goes "what?" if you mention Edwards or Carvin...
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Look into some of the smaller Traynor combos. With the right pedals in front, you'll have all the bases covered. They sound smooth at lower volumes.
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

I think you misread my post.

Primarily it will be for 80s Rock/Metal tones but it SHOULD be able to deliver a descent Jazz/Blues tone, not that it should be equally good at both or that it could possibly compare to a Jazz/Blues specific amp.

As for tubes, no, I said I'm not looking exclusively for tube exactly because I know they need to be opened up to deliver. I know there are a couple that are for home use (like the afore mentioned Randal) and use various ways to limit the spread of the sound while being opened up enough. But I'm not holding my breath on finding one that would have it all...

In the end I don't think it's that hard to get a good bedroom tone from a 30-60 (maybe 100) watt amp. But maybe I'm just totting my ignorance...

EDIT: Completely off topic but it's my thread so who gives a ***.
Happy Dude I just saw your sig, I think you're gonna like this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aiqkDm9UoKo

hehe that eyeliner and the cathartic nature is almost there!
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Whatever Gary Moore used with a Les Paul for Still Got The Blues. I swear that song could be in an "adult film" if it was to a jazz rhythm section.
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Could you be more specific? I just started looking into amps and I still know next to nothing about brands/models and the like. Imagine in guitars a guy that only knows what the Fender Stratocaster and the Gibson Les Paul are, knows nothing about the Tele or the SG, doesn't have a clue what Epiphone or Schecter are and goes "what?" if you mention Edwards or Carvin...

http://www.kustom.com/amps/guitar/hv/hv30.asp
http://www.kustom.com/amps/guitar/coupe/36coupecombo.asp
http://www.genzbenz.com/?fa=detail&mid=2000&sid=519&cid=91
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Thanks dude, luckily I know who has both dealerships for them over here.
Gonna go one of these days with my two babies and see what they're made of.

Keep em coming guys ;)
 
Re: Which Amps would you suggest me?

Ampeg Jet J12-T...2x EL84, 2x 12ax7, 15 watts, nice crunch without killin' folks at 50 feet. Get a booster to goose the preamp tubes for heavy crunch, and it'll sound good for $300- 350 used.
 
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