Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

OlinMusic

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Something that doesn't blow the doors off but still has all the good stuff. Something sweet and psongy, with good definition. Does this exist?
 
Re: Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

Seimens do this better than just about any I have heard. Warm, round. In the right amp they are just beautiful, not as much forward crunch and are a little bit darker in their voice. On the new side of things, I have a set of Harmas that sound great. More open and rounder on the treble side of things.
 
Re: Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

Most of the unpleasantness in EL34's that you speak of come from the amp or the speakers.

Sovtek's are brittle, worn tubes can get brittle, but most of the others are warmer.

E34L's were designed to provide more headroom and have a stronger bass.

I would go that route and go to a warmer speaker.
 
Re: Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

E34L's were designed to provide more headroom and have a stronger bass.

I don't agree with this statement....Your statement describes the 6L6 tube...An EL34 wants to compress and bring the mids out quicker and alot of it is because of it's thinner and taller shape....

The 6L6 is rounder,fuller and throatier sounding and offers more clean headroom in the same amp by comparison to the EL34s...Both tubes offer good bass however.
 
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STRATDELUXER97 said:
I don't agree with this statement....Your statement describes the 6L6 tube...An EL34 wants to compress and bring the mids out quicker and alot of it is because of it's thinner and taller shape....

The 6L6 is rounder,fuller and throatier sounding and offers more clean headroom in the same amp by comparison to the EL34s...Both tubes offer good bass however.

Read that again SD. ;) That's not an EL34. It's late Bro.

Actually OM, It sounds like you are growing out of EL34's. We can be your support group.

There must be 12 step program for EL34 users. :)
 
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Re: Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

wixedmords said:
Read that again SD. ;) That's not an EL34. It's late Bro.

Are you talking about the actual 30 watt Groove Tube EL34L? I have a set here I've not even tryed yet....LOL

I was talking about EL34s in general.....My bad then! :smack: :laugh2:

It is pretty late for me actually....:laugh2:
 
Re: Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

STRATDELUXER97 said:
Are you talking about the actual 30 watt Groove Tube EL34L? I have a set here I've not even tryed yet....LOL

I was talking about EL34s in general.....My bad then! :smack: :laugh2:

It is pretty late for me actually....:laugh2:

Well, any of the E34L's. I love the JJ.

SD, You are home. ;) I knew that you looked at it too quick. If I saw it the way you saw it I would have said WTF also. :)

OM, the E34L bridges the gap between EL34's and 6L6's. It is eq'd closer, but still lacks the warmth.

What speakers you running in the cab for the SuperLead? What Cab?
 
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wixedmords said:
Well, any of the E34L's. I love the JJ.

SD, You are home. ;) I knew that you looked at it too quick. If I saw it the way you saw it I would have said WTF also. :)

OM, the E34L bridges the gap between EL34's and 6L6's. It is eq'd closer, but still lacks the warmth.

What speakers you running in the cab for the SuperLead? What Cab?

I use 2 cabs....1 is a Marshall Vintage 4x12 with V30s and the second is a Vox 2x12 with V30s....I use either or depending....
 
Re: Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

I'm looking forward to trying the JJ/Tesla El34L's, I'll let you know what they sound like once I get them.
 
Re: Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

I have TESLA's
they are pure old school Marshall tone,thick, decent top, robust in the mids, solid but not too tight in the bass.
 
Re: Which EL34's have the sweetest tone and mids without the ROCK HARSHNESS?

kevlar3000 said:
Seimens do this better than just about any I have heard. Warm, round. In the right amp they are just beautiful, not as much forward crunch and are a little bit darker in their voice.
+1 My favorites too.

I'm using Original 90's Svetlana's right now though. They are closer to Siemens by my ear. I'm hoping to run across some Siemens NOS before these start going south.
 
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Lake Placid Blues said:
+1 My favorites too.

I'm using Original 90's Svetlana's right now though. They are closer to Siemens by my ear. I'm hoping to run across some Siemens NOS before these start going south.

That's exactly what I have currently in my Marshall(The first generation Svetlana EL34s).....I also bought a #6 set of GT EL34LS tubes,but I can't bring myself to replacing these Svets just yet...
 
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