Who applied a MDF guitar? Sonic-pleasure possible?
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St_Genesius
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DavidRavenMoon
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For use as a body it would be too heavy. And it would be a bad choice for a neck since it’s not dimensionally strong.
But it wouldn’t sound too different from a dense heavy wood like hard ash.
Danelectros have poplar frames (and necks) with Masonite tops and backs. Masonite is similar to MDF, but it’s tempered and has the laminate on the top. But otherwise it’s the same stuff as MDF.
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Re: Who has used a MDF guitar? Sonic-pleasure possible?
For use as a body it would be too heavy. And it would be a bad choice for a neck since it’s not dimensionally strong.
But it wouldn’t sound too different from a dense heavy wood like hard ash.
Danelectros have poplar frames (and necks) with Masonite tops and backs. Masonite is similar to MDF, but it’s tempered and has the laminate on the top. But otherwise it’s the same stuff as MDF.
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Pickup. The Neck was added by you by the 'Chinese Whispers' principle.
The guitar is on its way, i just wanted to daydream about how the wood would be like ;-p
I close the topic now as the muses of this board dont seem to get along with it too well
But, i would like to conclude: it has a chance as a pure Metal Axe like it was advertised then in the 80s :-D
Re: Who has used a MDF guitar? Sonic-pleasure possible?
Pickup. The Neck was added by you by the 'Chinese Whispers' principle.
The guitar is on its way, i just wanted to daydream about how the wood would be like ;-p
I close the topic now as the muses of this board dont seem to get along with it too well
But, i would like to conclude: it has a chance as a pure Metal Axe like it was advertised then in the 80s :-D
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Jack_TriPpEr
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This other thread says a body made from MDF will be very heavy - unless it has been designed with internal chambering. Also, if you ever mod it - like drilling extra holes for additional pots, etc. you have to be very careful about the sawdust from it because it is toxic (formaldehyde).
https://www.tdpri.com/threads/mdf-is-awful-stuff.89943/
This other thread says a body made from MDF will be very heavy - unless it has been designed with internal chambering. Also, if you ever mod it - like drilling extra holes for additional pots, etc. you have to be very careful about the sawdust from it because it is toxic (formaldehyde).
https://www.tdpri.com/threads/mdf-is-awful-stuff.89943/
NegativeEase
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Yeah, that's a great reminder for people. If you buy MDF, it's a good idea to let out in the sun to off gas formaldehyde vapors for a few days or weeks -leaving in the sun greatly speeds up the natural process of curing. Manufacturers use less UF glue now than 15 years ago and hopefully the MDF you purchase is at least 6-12 months old by the time you cut it -this decreases the gas risks dramatically.
During the building boom in my area, some houses were built almost entirely of MDF for joists, panels and even some studs, MDF that had just been manufactured weeks prior and gassing aggressively (due to the brisk demand of the market) -and the MDF would only be 3-4 months old when the homeowner took possession. Essentially these families were moving into a house that would be slowly gassing them for the next year.
the science on the dust AFTER the wood has off gassed the Formaldehyde vapor properly is unclear -as it's hard as hell to study because the cancer studies that have been conducted in the production factories on the workers are never handling older MDF that has been allowed to off gas -but if you cut MDF, have proper ventilation, and a basic mask should be warn.
Also, new furniture is often even worse -especially the fire retardant they spray on top of the formaldehyde.... google that to be terrified.
Yeah, that's a great reminder for people. If you buy MDF, it's a good idea to let out in the sun to off gas formaldehyde vapors for a few days or weeks -leaving in the sun greatly speeds up the natural process of curing. Manufacturers use less UF glue now than 15 years ago and hopefully the MDF you purchase is at least 6-12 months old by the time you cut it -this decreases the gas risks dramatically.
During the building boom in my area, some houses were built almost entirely of MDF for joists, panels and even some studs, MDF that had just been manufactured weeks prior and gassing aggressively (due to the brisk demand of the market) -and the MDF would only be 3-4 months old when the homeowner took possession. Essentially these families were moving into a house that would be slowly gassing them for the next year.
the science on the dust AFTER the wood has off gassed the Formaldehyde vapor properly is unclear -as it's hard as hell to study because the cancer studies that have been conducted in the production factories on the workers are never handling older MDF that has been allowed to off gas -but if you cut MDF, have proper ventilation, and a basic mask should be warn.
Also, new furniture is often even worse -especially the fire retardant they spray on top of the formaldehyde.... google that to be terrified.
Re: Who applied a MDF guitar? Sonic-pleasure possible?
Well, that guitar is from the late eighties, most likely made by Samick in Korea for Aria.
Its called Aria Pro II JS (black=non-reverse Headstock)
I also dont want to do anything with the mdf.
Google Pvc. The people who initially worked in pvc factorys had their hands mutated during lifetime...
Well, that guitar is from the late eighties, most likely made by Samick in Korea for Aria.
Its called Aria Pro II JS (black=non-reverse Headstock)
I also dont want to do anything with the mdf.
Google Pvc. The people who initially worked in pvc factorys had their hands mutated during lifetime...
NegativeEase
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Re: Who applied a MDF guitar? Sonic-pleasure possible?
Jesus Man. Didn't know about that one...
We live in a giant toxic bomb.
Jesus Man. Didn't know about that one...
We live in a giant toxic bomb.
SlyFoxx
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Bought two new book cases for the bedroom about 8 years ago. They stunk so bad I moved them to my second floor porch to air out for about two months. Put them back in the bed room and filled the shelves but after two days they began to stink badly again. Stuck an exhaust fan in the window and hardly entered the room for the next four months! It was he most God awful sure to give you cancer kind of smell I've ever encountered. I don't understand how something like that can be legal.
Bought two new book cases for the bedroom about 8 years ago. They stunk so bad I moved them to my second floor porch to air out for about two months. Put them back in the bed room and filled the shelves but after two days they began to stink badly again. Stuck an exhaust fan in the window and hardly entered the room for the next four months! It was he most God awful sure to give you cancer kind of smell I've ever encountered. I don't understand how something like that can be legal.
GuitarStv
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It's a pretty popular opinion in some circles that government should be cut down to the smallest size possible. One of the responsibilities of government is regulating toxicity in products, as history has shown time and again that private industry doesn't do this very well.
It's a pretty popular opinion in some circles that government should be cut down to the smallest size possible. One of the responsibilities of government is regulating toxicity in products, as history has shown time and again that private industry doesn't do this very well.
Re: Who applied a MDF guitar? Sonic-pleasure possible?
Do you think this guy really had a MDF guitar? : https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1089748
Post #13 in the given link takes that into consideration.
Do you think this guy really had a MDF guitar? : https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1089748
Post #13 in the given link takes that into consideration.
ehdwuld
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Re: Who applied a MDF guitar? Sonic-pleasure possible?
Hmm 12 year old thread
Next few posts talk about painting neck pockets
Sounds like children talking
Blah blah nonsense
Does look like MDF
May be Basswood
Hard to tell
Couldn't zoom in
Wisht it wasn't so old where we could check to see how that came out
Hmm 12 year old thread
Next few posts talk about painting neck pockets
Sounds like children talking
Blah blah nonsense
Does look like MDF
May be Basswood
Hard to tell
Couldn't zoom in
Wisht it wasn't so old where we could check to see how that came out
Re: Who applied a MDF guitar? Sonic-pleasure possible?
The guitar has arrived.
The Neck with its fretboard comes in handy like a cup of cake
it feels like a typical korean fretboard; i have touched some korean fretboards and i believe u can tell by the feel of a fretboard if its Korean xD but maybe someone else has a different oppinion...
The fretboard is rosewood but blackend. I have no clue how they did that, must be something like laquer...
Knocking the body is not uninviting and playing some chord without amplification makes clear
The mdf rings loudly.
The tonal quality of that is also not the worst. Its a bit warm-muffled like poplar with a more percussive tone thats less scooped than basswood, but its a bit scoooed. It has some treble. The percussive thing is more pronounced than its ambitions for an alder or maple top brightness in this guitar .. And like said, it does so quite loudly.
But ill check it again soon, couldnt check it that much yet.
Amplified, i was a bit surprised^^ i would call that experience maybe soprano-fuzz-bass ><
I used a cheap amp for few seconds for that plus the potis are blocked and so the signal got cut a lot, could be that the pickups might sound normal through a normal amp.
So first ill exchange the mechanics since one of them is broken and then ill sell it again because it was curiosity and gas that made me buy it. If i dont get it sold, ill keep it gladly. The playabilty is great and the black color tones look aesthetic on this guitar.
By the way, the weight is very fair. Its less than schecter mahagony guitars or that old german mahagony guitar that i have. It has a typical strat weight and a sporty supertrat shape.
Many Greetings!
The guitar has arrived.
The Neck with its fretboard comes in handy like a cup of cake
it feels like a typical korean fretboard; i have touched some korean fretboards and i believe u can tell by the feel of a fretboard if its Korean xD but maybe someone else has a different oppinion...The fretboard is rosewood but blackend. I have no clue how they did that, must be something like laquer...
Knocking the body is not uninviting and playing some chord without amplification makes clear
The mdf rings loudly.
The tonal quality of that is also not the worst. Its a bit warm-muffled like poplar with a more percussive tone thats less scooped than basswood, but its a bit scoooed. It has some treble. The percussive thing is more pronounced than its ambitions for an alder or maple top brightness in this guitar .. And like said, it does so quite loudly.
But ill check it again soon, couldnt check it that much yet.
Amplified, i was a bit surprised^^ i would call that experience maybe soprano-fuzz-bass ><
I used a cheap amp for few seconds for that plus the potis are blocked and so the signal got cut a lot, could be that the pickups might sound normal through a normal amp.
So first ill exchange the mechanics since one of them is broken and then ill sell it again because it was curiosity and gas that made me buy it. If i dont get it sold, ill keep it gladly. The playabilty is great and the black color tones look aesthetic on this guitar.
By the way, the weight is very fair. Its less than schecter mahagony guitars or that old german mahagony guitar that i have. It has a typical strat weight and a sporty supertrat shape.
Many Greetings!
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NegativeEase
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Ha. that's an understatement.
Ha. that's an understatement.