Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
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JeffR12345
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
If it's a copy(does it have "Licensed under Floyd Rose Patents" stamped anywhere on it?) then its most likely never going to do its job. A Schaller Floyd Rose should fit right in, and from what I've heard they are pretty good.
If it's a copy(does it have "Licensed under Floyd Rose Patents" stamped anywhere on it?) then its most likely never going to do its job. A Schaller Floyd Rose should fit right in, and from what I've heard they are pretty good.
Zerberus
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
I haven´t held a DIme yet, but Washburrn has been using the 600s for some time...
It´s EXACTLY the same in quality as the Ibanez LO-TRS Trems or the Jackson JT580...It will work for a while, but an Original Floyd is definitely a huge upgrade
I haven´t held a DIme yet, but Washburrn has been using the 600s for some time...
It´s EXACTLY the same in quality as the Ibanez LO-TRS Trems or the Jackson JT580...It will work for a while, but an Original Floyd is definitely a huge upgrade
Nate
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
Right, right. I prefer the original floyd rose, as the two guitars I have with those tremolos hold in tune better than anything else I own.
This 600-S tremolo does in fact have the "Liscensed Under Floyd Rose Pats." stamped right on it. I don't think it should be there considering the crappy nature of this specific product.
Zerberus, would you happen to know if re-routing to fit an original floyd rose is an option?
Right, right. I prefer the original floyd rose, as the two guitars I have with those tremolos hold in tune better than anything else I own.
This 600-S tremolo does in fact have the "Liscensed Under Floyd Rose Pats." stamped right on it. I don't think it should be there considering the crappy nature of this specific product.
Zerberus, would you happen to know if re-routing to fit an original floyd rose is an option?
JeffR12345
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
Not to try and answer something I wasn't asked... but I'm 95% sure you can have it re-routed to accept an OFR. I'm not exactly sure on the cost involved, though.
Not to try and answer something I wasn't asked... but I'm 95% sure you can have it re-routed to accept an OFR. I'm not exactly sure on the cost involved, though.
Breaking the law
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
Could you post pics? I have an Ibanez Lo-TRS, which started working well after I re-positioned the trem springs.. It works swell (for my needs anyways)
Could you post pics? I have an Ibanez Lo-TRS, which started working well after I re-positioned the trem springs.. It works swell (for my needs anyways)
Breaking the law
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
I'm not sure if you'll need to re-route it for an official FR.. Anyways, it seems that the trem is quite high.. If that is the case, try lowering it. And a buddy of mine said that new springs sometimes help. I have my springs close to eachother at the plate attatched to the body, and spread wider at the trem block.
I'm not sure if you'll need to re-route it for an official FR.. Anyways, it seems that the trem is quite high.. If that is the case, try lowering it. And a buddy of mine said that new springs sometimes help. I have my springs close to eachother at the plate attatched to the body, and spread wider at the trem block.
Zerberus
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
No. BEcause anything you would have to rout away is already gone
Just replace the studs w/ the original Floyd studs, drop the trem in, setup, and you´re rarin´to go
BTW. the way the trem is mounted isn´t wierd at all. It´s the way ALL Floyds were mounted before the fully recessed routs became common
Nate said:
No. BEcause anything you would have to rout away is already gone
Just replace the studs w/ the original Floyd studs, drop the trem in, setup, and you´re rarin´to go
BTW. the way the trem is mounted isn´t wierd at all. It´s the way ALL Floyds were mounted before the fully recessed routs became common
SingleCutDude
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I have tweaked a Dime 333 with the trem which you speak of. I was talkin the "Trendkill" model anyway. The locking bridge ain't even close to a Floyd. The string-ball ends are not even removed . . . it can never function as a true Floyd does.
HOWEVER. Think before you consider throwing in a true Floyd. A couple warnings. Firstly, the guitar you have is a collectible, that will never be made again, and due to Dime's untimely death, worth $$$$. Putting a new trem in will destroy value. It will also cost lotsa cash to buy the Floyd and have it fitted. If the Dime 333 that I worked on was representative of the instrument, your guitar will also never really be able to perform at the level of an expensive guitar, so just consider that before you run in with a new trem in hand . . .
I have tweaked a Dime 333 with the trem which you speak of. I was talkin the "Trendkill" model anyway. The locking bridge ain't even close to a Floyd. The string-ball ends are not even removed . . . it can never function as a true Floyd does.
HOWEVER. Think before you consider throwing in a true Floyd. A couple warnings. Firstly, the guitar you have is a collectible, that will never be made again, and due to Dime's untimely death, worth $$$$. Putting a new trem in will destroy value. It will also cost lotsa cash to buy the Floyd and have it fitted. If the Dime 333 that I worked on was representative of the instrument, your guitar will also never really be able to perform at the level of an expensive guitar, so just consider that before you run in with a new trem in hand . . .
Mr 9finger
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
1. There are no modifications, routing etc..., to drop in an original Floyd. Like said above. put in the original Floyd bushings and studs, which thread wise may be interchangeble with Some lic. floyds. so check before you go yanking the bushings.
2. As for collectibility. Yeah, the won't be made anymore. BUT no collector in their right mind would balk over an upgrade like that..Cmon your talking about a REAL FLOYD that will stay in tune and better the tone. Compared to a Korean made POS that is a pain just to work with. If collectibility is big concern, keep the original bridge and if you decide to sell it, just swap back. No big deal since there's no physical modding right?
3. "If the Dime 333 that I worked on was representative of the instrument, your guitar will also never really be able to perform at the level of an expensive guitar, so just consider that before you run in with a new trem in hand . . ."
I'm not real sure what that guy worked on, but that statement is dead wrong if I've ever heard one. The 333s were not cheap guitars. The Dimebolt finish you have ran about $1000 new. NONE of the mid to high end Washburns were fitted with original floyds unless they were custom shop. Those guitars were some of the BEST they made during that time period. They came out in what 95-96? I've played several and thought they were all spectacular axes.....
1. There are no modifications, routing etc..., to drop in an original Floyd. Like said above. put in the original Floyd bushings and studs, which thread wise may be interchangeble with Some lic. floyds. so check before you go yanking the bushings.
2. As for collectibility. Yeah, the won't be made anymore. BUT no collector in their right mind would balk over an upgrade like that..Cmon your talking about a REAL FLOYD that will stay in tune and better the tone. Compared to a Korean made POS that is a pain just to work with. If collectibility is big concern, keep the original bridge and if you decide to sell it, just swap back. No big deal since there's no physical modding right?
3. "If the Dime 333 that I worked on was representative of the instrument, your guitar will also never really be able to perform at the level of an expensive guitar, so just consider that before you run in with a new trem in hand . . ."
I'm not real sure what that guy worked on, but that statement is dead wrong if I've ever heard one. The 333s were not cheap guitars. The Dimebolt finish you have ran about $1000 new. NONE of the mid to high end Washburns were fitted with original floyds unless they were custom shop. Those guitars were some of the BEST they made during that time period. They came out in what 95-96? I've played several and thought they were all spectacular axes.....
Breaking the law
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
Hmm.. I think a locking trem could work without the ball ends removed.. as long as it has locking pieces in the trem
Hmm.. I think a locking trem could work without the ball ends removed.. as long as it has locking pieces in the trem
Zerberus
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
The Washburn 600s trem is 100% identical to the Old TRS trems (not the newer lo-pro ones) and the older Takeuchi-made Jackson JT-580 trems (also not the new LP version).
THe trem is made in Japan by Takeuchi, Parts are readily available through www.allparts.com , and it is VERY double Locking with ball ends to be removed. THere is also a 300-s, that´s a single locking model, and IIRC there used to be a POS Import Dime with that one on it, I´m pretty sure not the 333 but "one notch lower"...
as far as collectability: I wouldn´t hold my breath....Dime 333s can be currently had for 2-300 bucks each on ebay, and Imports usually never rise in value enough to make them worth collecting.....Washburn is also not really the company people associate w/ Dime, but Dean. Dean USA Lightning Bolt MLs, on the other hand, are really starting to go through the roof
SingleCutDude said:
The Washburn 600s trem is 100% identical to the Old TRS trems (not the newer lo-pro ones) and the older Takeuchi-made Jackson JT-580 trems (also not the new LP version).
THe trem is made in Japan by Takeuchi, Parts are readily available through www.allparts.com , and it is VERY double Locking with ball ends to be removed. THere is also a 300-s, that´s a single locking model, and IIRC there used to be a POS Import Dime with that one on it, I´m pretty sure not the 333 but "one notch lower"...
as far as collectability: I wouldn´t hold my breath....Dime 333s can be currently had for 2-300 bucks each on ebay, and Imports usually never rise in value enough to make them worth collecting.....Washburn is also not really the company people associate w/ Dime, but Dean. Dean USA Lightning Bolt MLs, on the other hand, are really starting to go through the roof
Sozos
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
I think it is a "Licenced under Floyd Rose pattents" kind of gear. If so an Original Floyd Rose trem should fit exactly. No problem with the cavity. I hope you know your Dime is a collectible from now on since Washburn doesn't make any of those anymore. Take good care of it
I think it is a "Licenced under Floyd Rose pattents" kind of gear. If so an Original Floyd Rose trem should fit exactly. No problem with the cavity. I hope you know your Dime is a collectible from now on since Washburn doesn't make any of those anymore. Take good care of it
SingleCutDude
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Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
Sorry guys, didn't realise that OFR wouldn't need mods or anything. You could always take it out. These definitely are becoming collectables though, but that's not really an issue for anything you can take out. So yeah, throw a dimebucker in.
Sorry guys, didn't realise that OFR wouldn't need mods or anything. You could always take it out. These definitely are becoming collectables though, but that's not really an issue for anything you can take out. So yeah, throw a dimebucker in.
Re: Who has messed with the 600S tremolo found on the Dime 333's?
Hi there, so did u manage to change the 600s trem to a OFR?
Do bear in mind that the trem post spacing might be diff. from the OFR. U shld measure it b/f getting the OFR.
Also, the FR Pro might be a better fit.... just a thought.
Hi there, so did u manage to change the 600s trem to a OFR?
Do bear in mind that the trem post spacing might be diff. from the OFR. U shld measure it b/f getting the OFR.
Also, the FR Pro might be a better fit.... just a thought.
