Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

[Butch Snyder]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

The bottom line about this guitar and any signature model. They are built and designed for the artist and not you, the player. I have read stories about how the Morse came about. I have heard Sterling Ball say it himself. The Morse was designed for Steve and no one else. It wasn't even meant to market.

 

[sosomething]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

Third, when you say original run, do you mean before the new 3 pickup version or do you mean from the first run, which was 50 instruments??

As I understand it, the guy offering the trade was referring to the first ever production run, which would put it in those 50 instruments.

Hell, it might even have the original 6-bolt neck attachment.

As for it being a sig model etc. etc., aren't half of EBMMs production models sig models? For guitars, only the Silo and Reflex started as pure production model guitars if I'm remembering right...

 

[B2D]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

As I understand it, the guy offering the trade was referring to the first ever production run, which would put it in those 50 instruments.

Hell, it might even have the original 6-bolt neck attachment.

As for it being a sig model etc. etc., aren't half of EBMMs production models sig models? For guitars, only the Silo and Reflex started as pure production model guitars if I'm remembering right...

The Reflex is based on the 25th Anniversary Model, which is based on the Axis, which is based on the EVH signature model.

The Silhouette and Silhouette Special (and you can count the Silhouette Bass Guitar if you want) stand alone in that they are purely "production" instruments.

Most of their basses are original production designs, but they do have a Reflex bass and Albert Lee inspired basses now.


The Steve Morse guitars are such specialized instruments, Butch is right, the only guy who's sure to love it 100% is Morse himself. They're pretty hard to find in stores, so trying one out probably isn't an option.

If you try it and don't like it, you can always pop on the EBMM board and unload it to all the EBMM diehards or trade it for another model of EBMM or just sell it outright. I can totally understand why you wouldn't do the trade though.

Your call.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

As I understand it, the guy offering the trade was referring to the first ever production run, which would put it in those 50 instruments.

Hell, it might even have the original 6-bolt neck attachment.

As for it being a sig model etc. etc., aren't half of EBMMs production models sig models? For guitars, only the Silo and Reflex started as pure production model guitars if I'm remembering right...

If it is one of the first 50 it'll be hand signed and numbered by Steve and they are rare...Steve has number 1 most of the other 49 are in the hands of collecters...

Just so you know...

 

[Butch Snyder]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

If it is one of the first 50 it'll be hand signed and numbered by Steve and they are rare...Steve has number 1 most of the other 49 are in the hands of collecters...

Absolutely correct.....

In fact, even though EBMM and Steve wne tback, after twenty years, and redesigned it; giving us the Y2D model, Steve still uses his #1 90% of the time. The newer Morse models (after 2005 maybe) and all the Y2Ds are made with the neck profile of Steve's #1. They digitally scanned that neck to be able to accomplish that.

BTW, his #1 has been through 10 refrettings. He has taken clear coart fingernail polish and touched up ares of the finish. He also injected silicone in between the neck pickup and pickguard because he was trying to achieve some controlled feedback in the studio. He takes his guitar synth off and on all the time. The reason for EBMM going to the 5-bolt neck is due to Steve also. On his prototype Y2d, he had all cream bobbins. He tooka purple sharpie and "colored" them. That's why, on the Y2d models with either the purple sunset or D-Purple finishes, the bobbins are all purple.

Check out these three videos of Steve and Sterling chatting about the standard model vs. the Y2D.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k6WZqBFSDQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkI3Kffq4H4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44-q_flFb-k&feature=related

 

[sosomething]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

The Reflex is based on the 25th Anniversary Model, which is based on the Axis, which is based on the EVH signature model.

The Silhouette and Silhouette Special (and you can count the Silhouette Bass Guitar if you want) stand alone in that they are purely "production" instruments.

Most of their basses are original production designs, but they do have a Reflex bass and Albert Lee inspired basses now.


The Steve Morse guitars are such specialized instruments, Butch is right, the only guy who's sure to love it 100% is Morse himself. They're pretty hard to find in stores, so trying one out probably isn't an option.

If you try it and don't like it, you can always pop on the EBMM board and unload it to all the EBMM diehards or trade it for another model of EBMM or just sell it outright. I can totally understand why you wouldn't do the trade though.

Your call.

I'm still at least 60% leaning this way, though TattooedCarrot's LP Classic is swaying me a bit. That plain-top tobacco burst is gorgeous.

It's the ergonomics and playability of the EBMM guitars that kills me. All my other guitars are Gibsons, a Tele, and a big tri-cone reso.. I've sort of ignored ergonomics for a few years and would really like to just spend some time with something different. The SM is definitely that.

 

[BluesGuyJ]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

you should check out a mike lipe

 

[J Moose]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

I've probably only picked it up three or four times since it came back.

I don't like to keep guitars around that I'm not playing. Never been much into "collecting," ya know?

I really just want a nice, modern, comfortable, usa-made bolt-neck to round out what's been a stable of pretty classic old-school guitars lately.

EDIT: AND NO FLOYD!

Put it in Open E or whatever for slide? DADGAD? Maybe nashville tuning?

I dunno man. To me, when I think of 'modern comfortable USA made bolt necks' the first things that come to mind are Tom Anderson, Suhr & USA Schecter...

Personally I wouldn't move on the Morse unless you can play it first and see if you dig it.

In generally I typically love or hate things within the first few minutes, and I can look past terrible setups and all that... and I really disliked the Morse.

FWIW I also think that GC had the SM tagged at like $699 or $799... something really stupid. I know it was under a grand. And it sat there for a long, long time...

 

[sosomething]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

Re: Anderson, Suhr, etc.

I just.... don't like strats. They never last with me, and I've had some nice strats and strat-type guitars. Something about them.. I don't know.

If someone bought my SG outright, I'm not even sure what I'd get. Part of me thinks I'd go with an EBMM JP6, but everything looks different with money in hand..

 

[uOpt]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

not to be too tangential- but I wonder why alot of people feel small necks and narrow nutsare prferred by those with smaller hands or shorter fingers- even when I had no issues with CTS/RSI, I HATED small necks and narrow nuts (this sounds wrong, lol)- I have medium hands and pretty short fingers.

I said that before but anyway.

I think the major problem here is that amateur guitarists who play a lot at home, alone, tend to play a lot more full chords, and use full barre, or ring finger partial barre, than professionals in full bands. Simply because they need to fill out an empty spectrum.

This was very obvious e.g. when Conan O'Brian had his farewell show with him playing a Les Paul and a bunch of famous guitarists in there. Conan == full barre, full chords. None of the famous guys every does that.

So, the point is, once you start playing 1 or 2 strings at a time, because it is better in the full spectrum of the band and for the music, then you probably don't need the wide nut anymore.

(exceptions apply, namely with singer/songerwriter and some country music)

At any rate- Sosomething- if the morse is iffy, why not build a "super tele" or super strat to your own down to the milimeter specs? The Morse is obviously highly specialized for one man's ergonomic and extremely vast tonal needs.

Because you don't get the superb fret and fretboard quality, the neck shape (if you like it) and the 5-point neck mount.

 

[Frantic_Rock]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

Thanks!

I'm wondering if this isn't the kind of axe I could really use to expand the palette of my band's instrumental sounds...

I think I'm gonna go for it unless something better comes along first.

Have you tried hooking up a guitar synth to a pro synthesizer via roland pickup?

I use a roland pickup and hookup to my Yamaha S90. You can get 1000 sounds and instruments. Inlcuding all kinds of ethnic flutes, percussions and folk instruments. This is my favorite thing to jam on these days. I am getting bored with just guitar sounds.

You could buy a Korg X50 keyboard instead, which has a triton brain if I am not mistaken, then hookup a guitar to it via a Guitar Synth (Midi). THat would get you way out there in terms of sounds. You do have to alter your technique to do this - a heads up.

 

[brunogio]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

Don't know if your experience will be similar but I had a EBMM Sub 1 which looks like the Morse model with poplar body. I'm not sure if the dimensions are the same or not but
I couldn't get over the smaller size of the thing and ended up trading it.

But it played well and sounded great.

 

[sosomething]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

Have you tried hooking up a guitar synth to a pro synthesizer via roland pickup?

I use a roland pickup and hookup to my Yamaha S90. You can get 1000 sounds and instruments. Inlcuding all kinds of ethnic flutes, percussions and folk instruments. This is my favorite thing to jam on these days. I am getting bored with just guitar sounds.

You could buy a Korg X50 keyboard instead, which has a triton brain if I am not mistaken, then hookup a guitar to it via a Guitar Synth (Midi). THat would get you way out there in terms of sounds. You do have to alter your technique to do this - a heads up.

One step at a time, my frantic friend... I'm not even using an OD pedal right now...

 

[tone?]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

Ebmm makes the best kookiest spec instruments out there


I mean when they made the Silo and Silo special the nut is again 1 5/8 but the neck heel is.......get a load of this.....1/4 instead of the narrower standard strat!!!

Btw the ebmm 1 5/8 nut is actually smaller than 1 5/8 I measured it with my calipers that's why people ***** about em all the time

 

[J Moose]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

Re: Anderson, Suhr, etc.

I just.... don't like strats. They never last with me, and I've had some nice strats and strat-type guitars. Something about them.. I don't know.

If someone bought my SG outright, I'm not even sure what I'd get. Part of me thinks I'd go with an EBMM JP6, but everything looks different with money in hand..

Huh.

If you don't dig strats then why even consider the Morse? At its heart its a super-strat with too many pickups and a tune-o-matic. Same goes for the rest of the EB guitars... they're super-strats. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

What I'd do, if I were you is hold onto the SG for now and play everything possible until the magic ride leaps out and blows your skirt up. Once you find what you need off the SG or make a trade.

Otherwise you're just offing a beast of an instrument for something that's a complete gamble... feel free to do that, but I sure wouldn't!!!

FWIW - I've got almost 15 guitars here. About 4 get played on a regular, meaning weekly basis. Some don't get touched for weeks, or even months... but when they come out they're in regular rotation because they do that thing they do so well.

And there's nothing wrong with that. Not unless you have no storage space or the womans throwing a fit...

 

[sosomething]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

GAS is rarely logical.

The choice may be made for me, anyway.

As I said, I'm not desperate to sell any guitar right now. My bills are paid and I have good stuff already.

If it doesn't sell, I keep it for now. No big.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

I know what I'd do if I acquired a MM Steve Morse model, and had good nickel covered pickups lying around. Simply find an aftermarket HH pickguard for it, from a company like Chandler, and request the electronics layout I want.

 

[tone?]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

But only if you got it at the most amazing price that would justify paying more money and pups

 

[uOpt]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

But only if you got it at the most amazing price that would justify paying more money and pups

The Morse is pretty cheap for a Music Man used.

And you can either keep the stock humbuckers until you resell the whole shebang. Or if you conclude you won't resell you sell the humbuckers from the Morse. They are worth the same money as regular Duncans.

 

[Frantic_Rock]

Re: Who here had the EBMM Steve Morse model?

One step at a time, my frantic friend... I'm not even using an OD pedal right now...

Actually, for the real purists:

You can get really sick and twisted by doing this:

hook up your guitar to midi guitar synth. Then into the keyboard. Then play the fake guitar simulation sounds of the keyboard using your guitar.

You will be simulating fake guitar sounds all day!! SIMULATING FAKE GUITAR SOUNDS UP THE YIN YANG!!

FAKE x 2 = Real right??