Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

[mind_transplant]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

You can safely use 8ohms into the 16 ohm HOTPLATE? Can you go out to an 8ohm cab? I can't imagine you can go to an 8ohm cab. Merely, send an 8ohm signal to the Hot Plate.

I've done it many times. As I said it isn't going to get you the best possible sound but is is safe, and yes you still use your 8 ohm cab. Note that it is the 16 ohm Hot Plate with the 8 ohm amp, and not the other way around. Mind you, a friend of mine once plugged his Hot Plate in backwards and it survived that just fine, so who knows...:smack:

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

funny story on that

I plugged my hot plate in backwards and it fried the failsafe fuse

THD took it back AND then they asked me if they could just send me a new one that was factory blemished (IT LOOKS NEW)

GREAT PEOPLE, Great company, esp EDWARD who has helped me more than once.

 

[Simon_F]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

BTW IS that true? You can safely use 8ohms into the 16 ohm HOTPLATE? Can you go out to an 8ohm cab? I can't imagine you can go to an 8ohm cab. Merely, send an 8ohm signal to the Hot Plate.

Before I bought my 16 ohm Hot Plate, I emailed this question to THD:

"I have both 16 ohm and 8 ohm cabinets that I like to use with my
Marshall amp. Is it possible to use a single Hot Plate with either
cabinet (assuming I set the amp impedance correctly)? If I bought a
16 ohm Hot Plate, could I use it with the 8 ohm cab as well as the 16
ohm cab?"

This is the reply I got:

"You can indeed, as long as you run the amp set to 8 ohm when using the
16 ohm Hot Plate with a 8 ohm load.

Ed DeGenaro
Sales Manager
THD Electronics, Ltd."

My understanding is that the ohm rating of the Hot Plates relates to the optimization of the tone circuitry. This is from THD product literature -

"each version is optimized for a specific impedance (2, 2.7, 4, 8, or 16 ohms.) These inductive loads are frequency compensated, which means it will give you the best possible sound for that impedance speaker and amplifier combination."

I've used my 16 ohm Hot Plate with the 8 ohm cab (amp set to 8 ohms) and it's been fine. No fried Marshalls yet! I do wish it had continuous control though. I've been in the situation during a gig where -8dB isn't loud enough but -4dB is too much. You end up re-dialling the amp. Great sound though, as long as you don't try to use it to get to bedroom volume.

Sorry, this is off the Weber topic - but I know this impedance question comes up a lot with the Hot Plates.

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

Hey THE CONTINUOUS VOLUME CONTROL IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I HAVE ASIDE FROM COLORATION OF THE TONE

 

[aleclee]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

GREAT PEOPLE, Great company, esp EDWARD who has helped me more than once.

Ed is also a scary good guitarist who has played with some name bands. On top of that, he's quite the character with a wicked sense of humor.

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

Well I think I am taking the plunge on the 150

From what I understand, Marshalls cranked, put out about 140 watts

 

[B2D]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

Well I think I am taking the plunge on the 150

From what I understand, Marshalls cranked, put out about 140 watts

Marshall usually rates their amps wattages rather conservatively. A 50W Marshall will, on average, put out around 80 watts. The 50W rating denotes that the power amp starts to clip at 50watts. Likewise, 100W Marshalls will put out anywhere between 140-160 watts depending on the model. Warren DeMartini owned one of the Plexis that the reissues were based on, and on the test bench it put out around 197 watts!!

FYI, I'm not just pulling this info out of my rear. I've read 2 or 3 good amp books that all say this, and one peice of literature from Marshall themselves.

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

Hopefully the 150 will work, no?

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

Hopefully the 150 will work, no?

You will be more than fine with a 150...no worried with that!

Enjoy it and let up know what you think!

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

NEXT QUESTION

When running out of the DI to create a wet mix dry mix - can one run STRAIGHT into a an FX unit then the POWER AMP or do you need to take the signal to another pre, then into a power amp?

Any recommended Power Amp?

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

I have only used the DI for direct recording and I only tried that once to be honest...

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

With a 100W amp, which one do you think would give the best attenuated tone, the 100 or 150?

 

[Stevo]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

I use mine all of the time. As stated above, it is great for getting a cranked tone without leveling the building :laugh2: It sounds a bit fizzy when the attenuation is maxed, but you can get decent tones at low volumes for sure. I think you need to put some power to the speakers before you can really start getting 'the' tone.

Kat Dyson used my Mass at the UGD and I thought it sounded great.. of course, she was playing Evan's PRS and she has some great chops too

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

It sounds a bit fizzy when the attenuation is maxed, but you can get decent tones at low volumes for sure. I think you need to put some power to the speakers before you can really start getting 'the' tone.

That is my experience too.

 

[kevlar3000]

Re: Who owns a Weber Attenuator?

With a 100W amp, which one do you think would give the best attenuated tone, the 100 or 150?

In comparing my move from a 50 to a 100, the 100 is defiantely louder and is clearer at high attenuation levels ( bedroom). Made quite a difference with my Gibson heads. They were a bit too quiet with the 50, so I think the power rating will make for some different results. For me, the switch to the 100 was a sonic upgrade.