Who says SS sucks

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Who says SS sucks

Recycler (The ZZ Top record) was recorded 100% with a Lead 12 Combo with the speaker leeds cut and then run to a G1230 (I belive) simply laying on it's magnet struture facing up with a SM57 hanging over it!

So what? Who cares if it's capable of cool tones? If there aren't tubes, it's a piece of sh*t, plain and simple.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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So what? Who cares if it's capable of cool tones? If there aren't tubes, it's a piece of sh*t, plain and simple.

yes they are...so you guys sell me all your Lead 12's, Roland Jazz Chours's, GK's, Kustoms, so I can get rid of them for the good of mankind!

 

[JeffB]

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I didn't personally think it was the be-all/end-all of tone...it's got a little buzz for sure..but it certainly sounds better than current Marshall SS amps, and better than Randall's and similar. If it didn't have that little "buzz" around the edges I think people would be hard pressed to tell if it was or wasn't a tube amp.

Nothing sounds like tubes...even the VT stuff isn't "right"...but certainly there's some good SS/Modeling stuff out there.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

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yes they are...so you guys sell me all your Lead 12's, Roland Jazz Chours's, GK's, Kustoms, so I can get rid of them for the good of mankind!

:laugh2:

Pass one of the JC-120s this way, I'll help you destroy them

 

[WhoFan]

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I remember those small mini Lead 12 combo's well!!!! I used to go down to Steves Music in Toronto as a teen back in the 80's and look at all the huge Marshall stacks! Could never afford those but the Lead 12 looked and sounded like what i wanted..... When it came time to buy i ended up getting some other Solid State Marshall combo that was really quite good! I wish i had kept it. I still don't remember the model but i got it around 1988. I thought i was a king because i had a Marshall and a Kramer....... ah the 80's!

Solid State has it's place and i use both SS and Tube amps. My Tube amps are for giging and my solid state stuff is for home. If i come across another original Lead 12 i may buy it.... I saw one a few years ago but passed on it. I found it funny back in the mid 80's Trevor Rabin of YES had one of those Lead 12 heads in his Bradshaw rack. He claimed he used that head for a lot of his Only Of A Lonely Heart sound.....

WhoFan

 

[Mephis]

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How are them new Marshall Micro stacks?

What are they compairable to? JCM, AVT, or MG? or anything.

 

[Jeff Seal]

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My very first Marshall was a Lead 12 in about '82 (early one that didn't have the jack on the front panel)......My parents got me it for Christmas... I absolutley loved it....

and true to form for me...... Within 5 hours.. had "modded" it for a line out and ran it into my '64 BF Showman (w/ 412, 2-15 and a 4-10 cab) and used it for a OD "box" for the longest time...... Then got the 2210 stack and used the Lead 12 for "practicing" and tuning before shows.......even Darrell from Pantera used it to tune.....none of us had "tuners" back then...(just realized that...!) we just tuned guitars and basses to each other and that was the way it was!....oh the memories!!!

Jeff Seal

 

[kevlar3000]

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My very first Marshall was a Lead 12 in about '82 (early one that didn't have the jack on the front panel)......My parents got me it for Christmas... I absolutley loved it....

and true to form for me...... Within 5 hours.. had "modded" it for a line out and ran it into my '64 BF Showman (w/ 412, 2-15 and a 4-10 cab) and used it for a OD "box" for the longest time...... Then got the 2210 stack and used the Lead 12 for "practicing" and tuning before shows.......even Darrell from Pantera used it to tune.....none of us had "tuners" back then...(just realized that...!) we just tuned guitars and basses to each other and that was the way it was!....oh the memories!!!

Jeff Seal

I used to front a PV decade 10 watter through my Twin reverb back when I was 15 or so. It was a whole lot better than my first amp, I used my cassette deck on record/pause and overloaded the levels... Ain't nothing better than cassette gain sep fer maybe the Indy 500....

 

[orangecountycarl]

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what about a good ol poly tone? Those things get amazing clean loud tones for pro's? Anybody use them with distortion pedals?

I have a Polytone 102D...I've had it for 27 years. (Not enough letters left in my Sig below :laugh2: ) I tried using it on a Top 40 gig a couple of nights in the mid 80s. I used a Boss pedalboard with the orange DS-1 distortion pedal.

IMO, the combination of a solid state distortion pedal and a SS amp sound awful...very brittle.
My experiment was short lived...I went back to my JTM-45 head and the pedalboard.

For clean jazz tones (especially with a big body jazz guitar), the Polytone is about the best I've heard.

 

[Benjy_26]

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I must admit that I record some cleans with a solid state amp. A 62RI Strat through a SWR Strawberry Blonde can be a beautiful thing.

 

[AmirH]

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Yeah, I'm actually planning on keeping my peavey bandit when I move up to a good tube amp specifically because the cleans are so lovely. Overdriven on the other hand is not so pretty.

It's worth noting that At the Gates used a solid state amp on slaughter of the soul and people are always asking how they got that killer tone.

 

[BornToShred]

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It's worth noting that At the Gates used a solid state amp on slaughter of the soul and people are always asking how they got that killer tone.

Pretty much every swedish DM band that recorded at Sunlight studios in the early 90's used a solid state combo amp (Peavey, if i remember correctly) and a Boss HM-2 to record. Entombed, Dismember, etc...