Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seeing?
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sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
<sigh>
Wrong again.
It's like being wrong about things is your job.
The Line6/Bogner amps are DSP modeling preamps paired with class A/B 6L6 power amps. You may hold them in such low regard that you decline to memorize their specs, but this makes the fact that you said "L6/Bogner is SOOO NOT tube driven. It's some puny Bogner-designed hybrid preamp in a Spider-style modeler" even more awkward, since it's written in plain text on this very page for everyone to see. Once again you're an expert on everything right up until you get called out for being full of sh*t, and then it's just one deflection after another while you spray even more false information.
Line6 didn't buy Bogner. Bogner is still independently owned and operated by the same company it always was. Line6 may have a paid licensing agreement to put the Bogner name on their amp designs which use the Bogner-designed tube power amp component. This is neither unusual or misleading in any way to anyone but you.
Line6 is not producing the standard Bogner-branded and serialed amps. Bogner does. In California.
You don't know any specifics of the agreement(s) between Line6 and Bogner, nor are you qualified to provide details on such agreements.
You are an internet troll.
You lack a legitimate point of view.
You contribute nothing to the discussion that is meaningful or valuable.
<sigh>
Wrong again.
It's like being wrong about things is your job.
The Line6/Bogner amps are DSP modeling preamps paired with class A/B 6L6 power amps. You may hold them in such low regard that you decline to memorize their specs, but this makes the fact that you said "L6/Bogner is SOOO NOT tube driven. It's some puny Bogner-designed hybrid preamp in a Spider-style modeler" even more awkward, since it's written in plain text on this very page for everyone to see. Once again you're an expert on everything right up until you get called out for being full of sh*t, and then it's just one deflection after another while you spray even more false information.
Line6 didn't buy Bogner. Bogner is still independently owned and operated by the same company it always was. Line6 may have a paid licensing agreement to put the Bogner name on their amp designs which use the Bogner-designed tube power amp component. This is neither unusual or misleading in any way to anyone but you.
Line6 is not producing the standard Bogner-branded and serialed amps. Bogner does. In California.
You don't know any specifics of the agreement(s) between Line6 and Bogner, nor are you qualified to provide details on such agreements.
You are an internet troll.
You lack a legitimate point of view.
You contribute nothing to the discussion that is meaningful or valuable.
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
(post redacted so that no one has any misunderstanding about who/what I'm referring to)
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Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
5 times less? So you're paying $15 for stuff? Look who you're talking to. I had to start building my own stuff because it was all I could afford. I can't even afford a truss rod, so I make one with materials I can afford. A simple 3/16" solid steel rod and pieces of a 1/2"steel rod from home depot.
Whatever to build your already huge ego. No matter what anyone says, there is no getting through to you because you are just so dense. Grow up already, and stop lying to yourself by telling yourself you know everything. I've seen arrogant bastards of kids my age that still show more maturity than what is shown in your actions here.
5 times less? So you're paying $15 for stuff? Look who you're talking to. I had to start building my own stuff because it was all I could afford. I can't even afford a truss rod, so I make one with materials I can afford. A simple 3/16" solid steel rod and pieces of a 1/2"steel rod from home depot.
Whatever to build your already huge ego. No matter what anyone says, there is no getting through to you because you are just so dense. Grow up already, and stop lying to yourself by telling yourself you know everything. I've seen arrogant bastards of kids my age that still show more maturity than what is shown in your actions here.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
My idea of fun is to throw The Guy Who Invented Fire and Adieu in a room together in real life! LOL
He's not in this thread because he wouldn't click on a Valveking thread, but it WOULD be funny to make them hang out for a weekend. :18:
My idea of fun is to throw The Guy Who Invented Fire and Adieu in a room together in real life! LOL
He's not in this thread because he wouldn't click on a Valveking thread, but it WOULD be funny to make them hang out for a weekend. :18:
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Kam
Shaftologist
Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not se
Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not se
:lmao:
Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not se
:lmao:
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
Christian is smarter than us for not having clicked on the link! Man I need that "why did I click on that link" smiley.
Also...I think I'm getting a brain tumor from the over abundance of "dumb" in here.
Christian is smarter than us for not having clicked on the link! Man I need that "why did I click on that link" smiley.
Also...I think I'm getting a brain tumor from the over abundance of "dumb" in here.
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
I picture steam coming out of Christian's ears like a cartoon character.
I picture steam coming out of Christian's ears like a cartoon character.
BigBazz
New member
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
I played alongside a Valveking player for years, sounded great and could get pretty close to my 5150 sound. Neither of us are using our Peavey amps live anymore but when we did the sound was so close between the two at live/venue volumes that you could not really tell them apart. So personally I never understand a dislike of the Valveking, very affordable and more versatile than a 5150, while being capable of very similar tones.
I personally think the 5150 is one of the finest sounding high gain/metal amps money can buy, and the massively popular 6505 (more popular than the 5150 ever was) would point to that being on merit, and not because of some relation to EVH that ended nearly a decade ago. With that said It wasn't everything that I wanted and I now play a Cornford Hellcat.
I played alongside a Valveking player for years, sounded great and could get pretty close to my 5150 sound. Neither of us are using our Peavey amps live anymore but when we did the sound was so close between the two at live/venue volumes that you could not really tell them apart. So personally I never understand a dislike of the Valveking, very affordable and more versatile than a 5150, while being capable of very similar tones.
I personally think the 5150 is one of the finest sounding high gain/metal amps money can buy, and the massively popular 6505 (more popular than the 5150 ever was) would point to that being on merit, and not because of some relation to EVH that ended nearly a decade ago. With that said It wasn't everything that I wanted and I now play a Cornford Hellcat.
L
Little Pigbacon
Guest
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
How many people here do you think contributed to that? Just curious.
How many people here do you think contributed to that? Just curious.
Toe-Knee
New member
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
One from memory. I can't be bothered re reading the entire thread.
One from memory. I can't be bothered re reading the entire thread.
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
And if you were to list those alphabetically, would you get past "A"?
And if you were to list those alphabetically, would you get past "A"?
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
Ooh, nice, sane ppl in the thread. With constructive info. Thx.
Btw, perhaps I should clarify: it's not so much my dislike for the 5150/6505 sound specifically, but its comparative lack of versatility when you're trying to get a DIFFERENT tone out of it (which I personally failed to achieve when I tried), that spoils that particular amp for me... if the 5150 was a channel, with 2 distinct others with a variety of possibilities (like the big Marshall TSL heads), maybe I'd actually even like it for certain things.
Not yet, but I'm getting rather more confident that I want one.
Waiting on some cash owed to me, or until I flip another guitar. Or, better yet, until someone on CL has one that I could trade something I don't need for.... cuz, sure, VK 100's are cheap, but trading away something that's just gathering dust and wasting garage space for it instead of digging into my wallet for a couple c-notes would be even better value.
АДю.
It's my initials, actually. Well, 3 letters thereof and coincidentally my signature (in another language/alphabet).
In any case, how the hell does my login relate to the topic at hand, or any other for that matter? It's not like I'm calling myself BlondePuffyTitMonster or FatCock335 or anything else that'd offend anyone...
Btw, any one of the haters care to explain what exactly FASCINATES you lot so much about my person? I certainly don't remember YOUR threads, your comments, or psychoanalyze YOUR usernames, and could care less... You bunch, on the other hand, are like those people in checkstand aisles that stare at the latest tabloid with that babyface whats-is-name (rhymes with beaver) or those Armenian sisters, and discusses the 10 billion things they can't stand about em. Now, I don't like em either, but I don't know the first thing about em, not even how they got in those tabloids and what they're famous for. Cause I don't care....
sincere bit of folk wisdom: dislike someone? good for you. now try to stop obsessing about every little detail about em, and just, y'know, try AVOIDING them, maybe? like pissing off from their threads, if, according to you, those threads annoy you? yeah?
Ooh, nice, sane ppl in the thread. With constructive info. Thx.
Btw, perhaps I should clarify: it's not so much my dislike for the 5150/6505 sound specifically, but its comparative lack of versatility when you're trying to get a DIFFERENT tone out of it (which I personally failed to achieve when I tried), that spoils that particular amp for me... if the 5150 was a channel, with 2 distinct others with a variety of possibilities (like the big Marshall TSL heads), maybe I'd actually even like it for certain things.
Not yet, but I'm getting rather more confident that I want one.
Waiting on some cash owed to me, or until I flip another guitar. Or, better yet, until someone on CL has one that I could trade something I don't need for.... cuz, sure, VK 100's are cheap, but trading away something that's just gathering dust and wasting garage space for it instead of digging into my wallet for a couple c-notes would be even better value.
АДю.
It's my initials, actually. Well, 3 letters thereof and coincidentally my signature (in another language/alphabet).
In any case, how the hell does my login relate to the topic at hand, or any other for that matter? It's not like I'm calling myself BlondePuffyTitMonster or FatCock335 or anything else that'd offend anyone...
Btw, any one of the haters care to explain what exactly FASCINATES you lot so much about my person? I certainly don't remember YOUR threads, your comments, or psychoanalyze YOUR usernames, and could care less... You bunch, on the other hand, are like those people in checkstand aisles that stare at the latest tabloid with that babyface whats-is-name (rhymes with beaver) or those Armenian sisters, and discusses the 10 billion things they can't stand about em. Now, I don't like em either, but I don't know the first thing about em, not even how they got in those tabloids and what they're famous for. Cause I don't care....
sincere bit of folk wisdom: dislike someone? good for you. now try to stop obsessing about every little detail about em, and just, y'know, try AVOIDING them, maybe? like pissing off from their threads, if, according to you, those threads annoy you? yeah?
guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
^^ BlondPuffyTitMonsterologist ^^
^^ BlondPuffyTitMonsterologist ^^
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: Why are Valveking 100s so dang cheap? Something really wrong with em I'm not seei
Nothing like a good "I'm not a troll; you guys are the real trolls" post.
Oh, and I'm gonna see if I can get my username changed to BlondPuffyTitMonster.
Nothing like a good "I'm not a troll; you guys are the real trolls" post.
Oh, and I'm gonna see if I can get my username changed to BlondPuffyTitMonster.