Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

[man-in-moon]

I have been watching and reading a lot of reviews of speakers. And have noticed eminence does not seem to be that popular. I always heard they made good speakers. But it seems celestion is still the go to for most people. Even at the higher price

 

[Rex_Rocker]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

Out of the aftermarket ones, I have only tried the Governor and Legend V12. To me, they're OK at best. A lot of people really like them. In the room, they're alright, but once you throw an SM57 in front, they really fall apart, IMO. I find them both fizzy with a weird scratchy attack and hollow-sounding mids, and it seems to be the same in every clip I've heard of them. Both recorded and in the room, I much prefer all of the Celestion V30 variants (Chinese, Mesa, Marshall, etc.), TBH.

I would like to try the CV-75, though. It sounds nice in the clips I've heard.

I personally think WGS do a better job at capturing the Celestion vibe with their Celestion-inspired models. Or at least their V30-inspired models.

 

[Demanic]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I don't think that you'll find any logical objective reason.

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[Blille]

Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I don’t have sales numbers, which would be helpful but I think they are popular, at least the American voiced ones. Cannabis Rex, Ragin Cajun, Red white and blues, Texas are IME quite popular. I really like my CR and maverick.

I think the competition is tougher in Brit voiced because of celestion but I always had the impression that GB128, wizard and governor (and Big Ben for 15) were popular. Not my area of expertise.


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[Benjy_26]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I think a lot has to do with the name printed on them. Some Eminence speakers are great (particularly the bass drivers).

 

[Van Noord]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

Most Eminence models I've tried/heard sound flat and less "lively" than Celestions.
A speaker I really like of theirs is the Wizard, but that's likely cause it's the most Celestion in nature lol!

 

[hamerfan]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I had only those bread-and-butter oems of Fender and Roland. These sounded kind of meh.

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I had only those bread-and-butter oems of Fender and Roland. These sounded kind of meh.

Perhaps many associate Eminence with the Fender Special Design speakers, and that is the problem.

 

[Jacew]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I guess it's just because they're not made by Celestion...

 

[Wattage]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I love my Emi Ragin Cajun's and RamRod's

 

[cliffenstein]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

Probably because WGS speakers are less expensive and get as good (or better) reviews.

 

[metlking]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I have owned 4 or 5 different models and I really wanted to like them but I was always left feeling underwhelmed, even after many hours breaking them in. The GB128 was OK and tolerable. It only comes in 8Ω though. Just my experience. I'm using Scumbacks these days.

 

[treyhaislip]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I didn’t really think they were more or less popular than others.

I’ve had great luck with mine. Love the Legend, Canabis Rex and Texas Heat.

 

[Diego]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

Love my Wizard, hated my Legend 1258. There you have it.

I happily use my Celestions as well. I don't care about the brand as long as it's good.

 

[man-in-moon]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

After listening to more demo's I do think a majority of the celestions sound better. Now comes the hard part deciding which one for my dsl40 combo.

 

[VinceT]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I have been watching and reading a lot of reviews of speakers. And have noticed eminence does not seem to be that popular. I always heard they made good speakers. But it seems celestion is still the go to for most people. Even at the higher price

They’re very popular in my house! I have 3, all from the redcoat series 10, 12 and 15 inch. They’re the sound I have in my head.


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[Chickenwings]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

dsl 40 i reckon a g12h75 creamback would be a great choice.
Having said that, I really like a lot of eminence speakers and would recommend them for a lot of different amps.
I think the reason a lot of folks dont get super excited about the eminence offerings is for a couple of reasons (logical or not). First is that Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton both used celestions extensively. Celestion is more or less synonymous with the iconic 4x12 marshall cabinet. That kind of association with the most recognisable amps and players in the history of music is bedrock for maintaining the prestige of a brand and how desirable it is over the long term.
The other reason emis dont attract everyone's attention is because you see them in the backs of a ton of current fender amps. Those OEM special design speakers are simply not very good and it is usually the first thing to go when people want to customize or improve their amp. Fair enough, but I think that a lot of the people who do that immediately assume that those speakers represent what eminence sound like so they dont bother trying out any of the seriously killer and diverse sounding eminence drivers from the patriot, redcoat and signature lines. Even some of their legend series speakers are pretty damn good and used by high end boutique amp builders.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

I think Eminence is in no way unpopular, so I'm going to say that that is a misconception. Eminence USA makes an outstanding product line, with the best warranty in the the business. If I am not mistaken, the Eminence range of speakers runs more efficient in SPL than Celestions, so although a complement of Celstions and Emis is , from my experience, going to sound great as long as you get the synergy right, it won't be perfect.
I belive Emience speakers are great, but as far as sound, British made Celestions have a decisive edge insofar as classic rock and classic metal goes. Fur modern metal i think Eminence is fine. I don't buy Chinese speakers ( or any chinese gear) so i am not even going there.

 

[dystrust]

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When the only Emi speakers I'd ever played through were either Legends or OEM, I didn't like them either. I first got to try a Governor in a Roccaforte cab in 2006 or so and I was blown away by the improvement. The Governor isn't my favorite Redcoat speaker, but it's at least in the same ballpark as a V30 IMO. My two favorites are the Private Jack which is like an improved Greenback, and the Wizard which is shockingly close to the Blackback G12H30s in my late 70s Marshall 4x12. In fact I like Wizards so much that I'm going to sell the 4x12 when I take it out of storage; I've barely played through it since getting my first Wizards in 2007.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: Why aren't eminence speakers more popular?

. .... the Private Jack which is like an improved Greenback,.

'LIKE' is right..The British made Greenback is a lot lot better. I'm got gonna say 'IMO', that would be a cop out. I believe it to be a true fact, so why say it's an opinion?...Same goes for the Wizard- it's a fine speaker, but does it sound as good as a 70'as Blackback ? ..just no...OTOH, if you are playing covers through budget amps and cobbled together bargain basement Guitar Fetish parts, what difference does it make?