Why Doesn't Everyone Get Combos Instead of Heads Since You can Plug Em Into 4x12s?
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that is a pretty sweet marshall rig Jeff_H
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that is a pretty sweet marshall rig Jeff_H
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Jeff_H
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Yeah, and here I am posting it in a Combo thread, and wishing I could turn it into a head. :laugh2: :laugh2: :smack:
I'd actually like a head to go with this. I've been pretty happy with it for the most part though. Thanks for the compliments fella's.
Yeah, and here I am posting it in a Combo thread, and wishing I could turn it into a head. :laugh2: :laugh2: :smack:
I'd actually like a head to go with this. I've been pretty happy with it for the most part though. Thanks for the compliments fella's.
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I've always found Combos and head versions of the same models or close to always sound slightly different..... My C50 head sounds different to my ears then a C50 combo.... I find combos are great portable power....
That being said a few years ago i stopped buying stack stuff unless it was a steal... or on the wish list for years.... for my gigging and jamming needs i have been looking at all sorts of combos... a can't afford the ones i want... i may end up with a Vox modeling thing until i win the loto..
but i do use my heads with a Marshall 1x12 a lot.... But i may of hurt that speaker a little bit as it was kind of buzzy the last time i used it... It's a 150 watt speaker but there has been times i have opened up my 5150 into it at outdoor shows and it was really moving.... I have a wooden crate that i put my heads on and a speaker stand for the Marshall 1x12 so i can tilt it back on a monitor angle....
I have used my full 5150 set up in some bars and it is way over kill.... So a pedalboard and a C30 combo was what i ended up using towards the end of my last band... some good dirt boxes thru the clean channel of a c30 can be fun..... and portable
Re: Why Doesn't Everyone Get Combos Instead of Heads Since You can Plug Em Into 4x12s?
I've always found Combos and head versions of the same models or close to always sound slightly different..... My C50 head sounds different to my ears then a C50 combo.... I find combos are great portable power....
That being said a few years ago i stopped buying stack stuff unless it was a steal... or on the wish list for years.... for my gigging and jamming needs i have been looking at all sorts of combos... a can't afford the ones i want... i may end up with a Vox modeling thing until i win the loto..
but i do use my heads with a Marshall 1x12 a lot.... But i may of hurt that speaker a little bit as it was kind of buzzy the last time i used it... It's a 150 watt speaker but there has been times i have opened up my 5150 into it at outdoor shows and it was really moving.... I have a wooden crate that i put my heads on and a speaker stand for the Marshall 1x12 so i can tilt it back on a monitor angle....
I have used my full 5150 set up in some bars and it is way over kill.... So a pedalboard and a C30 combo was what i ended up using towards the end of my last band... some good dirt boxes thru the clean channel of a c30 can be fun..... and portable
frpax
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Good one! I'm a heretic, then. :smokin:
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Good one! I'm a heretic, then. :smokin:
frpax
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I always liked the idea of a 2x12 combo and a 2x12 extension cabinet.
Now I mike my combo. Just about no need for an extension cab any more.
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I always liked the idea of a 2x12 combo and a 2x12 extension cabinet.
Now I mike my combo. Just about no need for an extension cab any more.
krankguitarist
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damnnnnn, thats sweet-lookin.
Here's my new head:
damnnnnn, thats sweet-lookin.
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My sentiments exactly. I have a 45 W Rivera 1X12 combo that is *38 lbs*. I upgraded the speaker, and it is untouchable. Practice ( or clubs ) are painless in the gear department with it. I picked up an M60 head which is the ultimate recording amp, and works perfectly with a 1X12 cab...2X12 cab...and, oh gee...look at this... looks nice on a 4X12 too. I also have a bunch of guitars. One would probably do. I never dreamed of a 4X12, and could absolutely due without it. Damn it rocks !!
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My sentiments exactly. I have a 45 W Rivera 1X12 combo that is *38 lbs*. I upgraded the speaker, and it is untouchable. Practice ( or clubs ) are painless in the gear department with it. I picked up an M60 head which is the ultimate recording amp, and works perfectly with a 1X12 cab...2X12 cab...and, oh gee...look at this... looks nice on a 4X12 too. I also have a bunch of guitars. One would probably do. I never dreamed of a 4X12, and could absolutely due without it. Damn it rocks !!
marvar
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I have a Marshall 2x12 combo, and a 4x12 cab, and I can use either/and/or, giving me 6x12! I like combo's, I'd rather make one trip than two from the car to the stage. Combo's arent' all that much heavier than a good 4x12, IMO they are just easier to deal with. and some heads are almost as heavy as combo too. Plus, a combo fits in my car easier. They both have their place. In some clubs, or say, if you do church work, it's kinda overkill to carry in a 1/2 stack or full stack.
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I have a Marshall 2x12 combo, and a 4x12 cab, and I can use either/and/or, giving me 6x12! I like combo's, I'd rather make one trip than two from the car to the stage. Combo's arent' all that much heavier than a good 4x12, IMO they are just easier to deal with. and some heads are almost as heavy as combo too. Plus, a combo fits in my car easier. They both have their place. In some clubs, or say, if you do church work, it's kinda overkill to carry in a 1/2 stack or full stack.
More-Gear-Than-Skill
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alot of bedroom rockers have gotta have whatever the hero has/had. Stacks are the 'business', for both the kids and the shops!
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alot of bedroom rockers have gotta have whatever the hero has/had. Stacks are the 'business', for both the kids and the shops!
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
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Not true. In my band, a combo would definitely not cut it in terms of volume, unless I put it on an angled stand and aimed it up, but then the speakers would be beaming everyone's brains out.
A combo weighs twice or more what the same amp in head form weighs. Since I've already established that I need four speakers pushing air (since we do play some all-ages shows where there is barely enough PA to run vocals), we're basically adding about 60 lbs to what I already have to carry around.
Plus, combos are usually open-back designs, and those don't tend to perform as well for the kind of music I play.
I've yet to see that. In my experience, the combo always costs significantly more than the head form of the same amp.
Anyway there's my version of you answer.
Not true. In my band, a combo would definitely not cut it in terms of volume, unless I put it on an angled stand and aimed it up, but then the speakers would be beaming everyone's brains out.
A combo weighs twice or more what the same amp in head form weighs. Since I've already established that I need four speakers pushing air (since we do play some all-ages shows where there is barely enough PA to run vocals), we're basically adding about 60 lbs to what I already have to carry around.
Plus, combos are usually open-back designs, and those don't tend to perform as well for the kind of music I play.
I've yet to see that. In my experience, the combo always costs significantly more than the head form of the same amp.
Anyway there's my version of you answer.
GuitarStv
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Man, I bought a Traynor 40WR because it was the loudest portable amp that I could carry . . . when I go out to jam I take my amp in one hand, cab in the other, then go back and take my pedalboard in one hand, guitar in the other. One of my buddies plays with a red knob fender twin . . . you want to talk about heavy, look at those bastards! The Traynor's only a 50 lbs amp dude, you shouldn't be throwing your arms out!
Man, I bought a Traynor 40WR because it was the loudest portable amp that I could carry . . . when I go out to jam I take my amp in one hand, cab in the other, then go back and take my pedalboard in one hand, guitar in the other. One of my buddies plays with a red knob fender twin . . . you want to talk about heavy, look at those bastards! The Traynor's only a 50 lbs amp dude, you shouldn't be throwing your arms out!
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I had this Bad Cat Trem Cat that I just *had* to have as a 2x12 even though James at Bad Cat strongly urged me to go standard 1x12. But, no. I didn't listen.
THe amp was nearly 100lbs. I'm a big guy and all that, but that's just not fun to take places. So, it never left the spot where it was first unboxed. Lesson learned. Iv'e got a bad back and a surgically repaired shoulder. I'll not do that again. Having a 2x12 cab and a head is just easier weight-wise. Other than that, I love combos, but my favorite combos these days are 1x12's.
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I had this Bad Cat Trem Cat that I just *had* to have as a 2x12 even though James at Bad Cat strongly urged me to go standard 1x12. But, no. I didn't listen.
THe amp was nearly 100lbs. I'm a big guy and all that, but that's just not fun to take places. So, it never left the spot where it was first unboxed. Lesson learned. Iv'e got a bad back and a surgically repaired shoulder. I'll not do that again. Having a 2x12 cab and a head is just easier weight-wise. Other than that, I love combos, but my favorite combos these days are 1x12's.
noisenet
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I've just always used a half stack. I like the push of 4 12's hitting me in the back, without the beam-iness of a combo on top. As I've always used this kind of setup, I guess my style and preference has just evolved around it.
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I've just always used a half stack. I like the push of 4 12's hitting me in the back, without the beam-iness of a combo on top. As I've always used this kind of setup, I guess my style and preference has just evolved around it.
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I have all combos and for me its about portability. In todays world almost always everything is being miked and run thru the PA so volume is not really an issue. I have a Marshall 2 12" 50W 900 and it weighs about 40 lbs. That's lighter than a 4 12" cab thats for sure. Carrying a 4 12" up a flight or 2 of stairs sucks!!! I can carry my Marshall combo pretty easy. I also use a Deluxe Reverb from time to time and thats even lighter. My Bogner 1 12" combo is very heavy by comparison. That weighs about 80lbs, but I have a flight case for it and it has wheels. Relativley easy to move. The Super Reverb is probably the heaviest, but once you get it where it needs to be it ain't so bad until you have to carry it out a 2:00 AM. That part always sucks no matter what gear you use.
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I have all combos and for me its about portability. In todays world almost always everything is being miked and run thru the PA so volume is not really an issue. I have a Marshall 2 12" 50W 900 and it weighs about 40 lbs. That's lighter than a 4 12" cab thats for sure. Carrying a 4 12" up a flight or 2 of stairs sucks!!! I can carry my Marshall combo pretty easy. I also use a Deluxe Reverb from time to time and thats even lighter. My Bogner 1 12" combo is very heavy by comparison. That weighs about 80lbs, but I have a flight case for it and it has wheels. Relativley easy to move. The Super Reverb is probably the heaviest, but once you get it where it needs to be it ain't so bad until you have to carry it out a 2:00 AM. That part always sucks no matter what gear you use.
ErikH
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Bluedave, I bet that 2x12 combo of yours is closer to 55-60 lbs. My 900 head is 47 lbs. alone. Add the weight of the speakers and additional wood for the combo box.
I'm kinda tired of lugging my 4x12 around lately so a 2x12 may be replacing it at some point.
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Bluedave, I bet that 2x12 combo of yours is closer to 55-60 lbs. My 900 head is 47 lbs. alone. Add the weight of the speakers and additional wood for the combo box.
I'm kinda tired of lugging my 4x12 around lately so a 2x12 may be replacing it at some point.
Kommerzbassist
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Uhm... because I won't use the internal speaker anyway? Must be...
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Uhm... because I won't use the internal speaker anyway? Must be...
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