Why don't people take care of thier instruments?

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You also have to consider, if you are a working musician, even if you are as careful and concerned as you can be, stuff happens at gigs. Like, the band before you overran their time by 15 minutes and now your set is cut short and instead of 15 minutes to tear down and change out, you've got 5 minutes to get everything off stage and you've got the promoter's staff people 'helping' you and BAM!
 
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I like to give all of mine a good KY rubdown before returning them to their cases.
 
Re: Why don't people take care of thier instruments?

You also have to consider, if you are a working musician, even if you are as careful and concerned as you can be, stuff happens at gigs. Like, the band before you overran their time by 15 minutes and now your set is cut short and instead of 15 minutes to tear down and change out, you've got 5 minutes to get everything off stage and you've got the promoter's staff people 'helping' you and BAM!

true. I usually have my main and backup guitars' cases just offstage.

In those situations, usually as soon as I'm done my set, I unplug and the guitars go straight into their cases before I do anything else. Then I can worry about amp, pedals etc. Unplug all that and pack it in 3 mins. 2 mins to quickly get guitars, amp, cab and pedalboard off stage. Done.

But once it's in the case, it doesn't matter if people are helping or not, because it's protected.
 
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I think people are talking about different things...

...to me, a guitar that's beat up is not necessarily badly maintained.

It's perfectly acceptable if the paint is gone, if the metal is corroded, if the thing looks like it's been to hell and back. But it's completely unacceptable if the intonation is off, the electronics don't work and the strings are all rusty. One thing tells you the guitar has been played, sweat and bled on. The other tells you it has been neglected.
 
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I don't gig, so 'road wear' is never likely to be a factor for me. It turns out my sweat isn't that corrosive either, so my strings can last months, if not years (seriously). My UK guitars are mostly in their cases, all the ones here are on the wall or on stands. The don't get abused, but neither do they get babied. Sometimes I'll wipe strings down, but mostly not. They all have a varying amount of desert dust on them; it's unavoidable. But they are all set up and adjusted when they need it.

As far as I can make out, only one has what you'd call a ding on it, and that's the SE Soapbar, which I believe got bashed with a Hoover - no biggie...
 
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true. I usually have my main and backup guitars' cases just offstage.

In those situations, usually as soon as I'm done my set, I unplug and the guitars go straight into their cases before I do anything else. Then I can worry about amp, pedals etc. Unplug all that and pack it in 3 mins. 2 mins to quickly get guitars, amp, cab and pedalboard off stage. Done.

But once it's in the case, it doesn't matter if people are helping or not, because it's protected.

+1. Doesn't take any extra time, because the guitar is going in the case anyways. Makes sense that it's the last thing out (of the case), and the first thing in. That's not 'babying' a guiitar; it's just keeping it away from clumsy band mates when they're setting up or breaking down their gear.
 
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I buy them to use... I could not care less if my relatives sell them after I'm dead and get less because i have used them. To me they are tools to make music and I will use them as such. Even my rare guitars get played no i dont go out of the way to abuse them but they do get used sometimes hard. ( I guess I should clarify I have even purchased some before specifically to abuse in about 1996 I bought a already well used Ibanez RG550 specifically to make it a trunk guitar)

For me a guitar that sits in a case and only comes out to be rubbed with a diaper is worthless, Iam also not going to be shy and act like a leper when i strap that guitar on. I dont worry about belt buckle rash or if the smoke in the bar is going to damage the finish. I dont get the "you will ruin its re- sale value" crap. They are not investments they are instruments.

Women are tools to conceive children but you don't toss them around, well at least not in civilized society.
 
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I take care of all my guitars and get pissed if any of them get chipped or some other unrepairable damage. On the other hand I don't give a damn **** about my motorcycle, which is my main mode of transportation, rarely lubricating it, let alone washing it. I guess it's because I have a connection with my instruments. It is okay if something else breaks at my house, for whatever cost, but absolutely NOT to my guitars (and other tools to make music).
 
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Women are tools to conceive children but you don't toss them around, well at least not in civilized society.
Sorry dude but thats just an epically lame comment... I sincerely hope you didnt spend too much time thinking of that. It really needs a godzilla facepalm
 
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What's wrong with this picture? Strings cost a few bucks, and guitars cost a few hundred to a few thousand.

Really what is wrong with it?

Think about it before making a comment.

Its not necessary to rub down an instrument after playing, unless you sweat all over it or spill something on it. Polishing with a cloth puts those haze scratches in the finish if you have a polished finish. Strings do go noticeably 'dead' for me after a day or two if they are not rubbed down.

You can polish your instruments to your heart's content - they're yours. For mine, I'll maintain as I see fit.

EDIT: Blueman335, what qualifies you to sit in a position of judgement on how someone should take care of their instrument? I don't know you from Adam.
 
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EDIT: Blueman335, what qualifies you to sit in a position of judgement on how someone should take care of their instrument? I don't know you from Adam.

Adam who? I don't believe I know him.
 
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I think he was Lilith's first husband.
 
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+1. Doesn't take any extra time, because the guitar is going in the case anyways. Makes sense that it's the last thing out (of the case), and the first thing in. That's not 'babying' a guiitar; it's just keeping it away from clumsy band mates when they're setting up or breaking down their gear.

yeah, but I still don't give two craps about wiping down the strings or the body or the back of the neck or anything else for that matter.
 
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Earth to blueman. Not everybody is you. Get over it.

I bought a new guitar today. I took it home sans case or gig bag. It just rode shotgun.

I hope your tiny head didn't explode reading that.

Extremely immature comment! No reason to say such demeaning things because someone else has an opinion that's different than yours.

Or do you just have a guilty conscience because you know your opinion/action is irresponsible?
 
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Here's a wild idea:

If you want to spend more time cleaning than playing, go for it.

If you really aren't that concerned with it, more power to ya.
 
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If you want to buy Epiphones that look like they're new, you might just have to spring for a new one once in a while. Sorry.
 
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OK, I guess it's my turn.

First of all I want to preface my comments by saying that I do respect everyone's opinions, even if they aren't the same as mine, as long as they are representing their comments as their OPINIONS. I appreciate "facts" that ARE facts. I love to learn new ideas, concepts, ways of doing things. And I'm not so dogmatic as to think that everything I do or think right now is correct (even though it usually is.....just kidding) and can't be changed in the future. Behavioral and thought change is good as long as it leads us in a better direction.

Now, I need to comment on a remark by Edgecrusher , (" I could not care less if my relatives sell them after I'm dead and get less because i have used them. To me they are tools to make music and I will use them as such"). To someone that young, his remarks would seem absolutely logical. And to an extent I also agree. But to someone my age or older I think we have a different point of view. I'm at a point where I'm contemplating what I'm going to leave as an inheritance to my children. I care about the value and it bothers me that I may have worked very hard for the money I leave just to have the government take most of it leaving them with less than half of what I earned. Likewise, if I leave them possessions, I want them to be meaningful/useful to them. If they can sell my guitars for $30,000 instead of $300 isn't that better?

Yes, they are "tools to make music". But I've found that EVERY tool that I've ever owned, (whether it was a lawnmower, power saw, drill motor, welder, drafting instruments, vehicle, medical equipment and instruments, paint brush, guitar or amplifier, etc.) they all worked better, performed their intended purposes better, and lasted longer when they were cared for and not just used-and-abused-and-discarded-and-replaced.

That90'sGuy...I don't think we are talking about "the collector mindset where everything has to look pristine". I think we are talking about basic respect for things as opposed to neglect and abuse. You say that we should "enjoy them and stop worrying about the little things". And while I agree with this 100%, I guess it all depends on what you or I or anyone else believes ARE the "little things" and what damage can or can't be avoided.

There absolutely ARE "little things" that happen that can't be helped and that we shouldn't worry about like: small scratches/nicks/dings; fading and normal wear of the finish; fret wear; and belt buckle rash (actually that can be reduced or eliminated...I used to keep my "sweat towel" hanging across my belt buckle - it killed two birds with one stone by keeping my towel handy and protecting my guitar).

And there are some little things that we all DO or should worry about that we CAN do something about: going out of tune or intonation; worn out switch; old worn/rusty/corroded/dead strings; or a bad pot (meaning potentiometer not cannabis...well, maybe that too).

It all comes down to "to each his own". If you believe that you should buy a $2500 instrument and neglect and abuse it to the point where it has no economic nor functional value, that's your choice. It just isn't mine and it seems to me to be a very shortsighted and immature belief.

Just my opinion.
 
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Inheritence doesn't run in my family. Each generation creates its own form of working-class ignorance and near-poverty.
 
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I'm a little jealous of people who had parents who gave even the slightest thought about their kid's inheritance, or even paying for their college. But only a little, I don't think parents should have to worry about providing their kids anything once they are past the age of 18.

I think people who say about guitar "it's just a tool for making music" are mentally avoiding the fact that they can't be bothered to care better for their more delicate possessions, because if guitars were tools, they'd only come in Stanley Yellow or Milwaukee Red. I also take a little offense to the idea that the music is a more valid end goal than a guitar itself. I don't think Luthiers like to think of themselves as tool makers. I have a friend who does't know how to play guitar at all, but knows all about how they work because that's more interesting to him than actually playing. A guitar itself is art, separate and distinct from whatever is done with it musically.
 
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