Will this wiring work?

[BetaCAM]

Hi,

I'm using the schematics from the SD site with 1 humbucker, 2 STK S4, with a 5 way super switch that I have.

There's one thing I didn't take under consideration which isn't mentioned in the schematics either: grabbing a middle position STK. I ordered 2 STK S4 for neck position to fit in the neck and middle position.

My question has to be: will positions 2 and 4 cancel the Hum?
and if not, what other ways do I have to accomplish no hum at position 4 with the middle pickup and bridge, but still retain a single coil type of tone from the position?

What are my options? I'm not a USA resident so returning the goods is messy, I ordered the pickups on Ebay because the local distributer doesn't have them stock and he hasn't received shipments for many months.

Thanks!

 

[DazH]

Re: Will this wiring work?

Stacks are hum-cancelling as-is you wont have any problems mate. the only reason there are middle rw/rp pickups is because one cancels the hum out of each other and back and forth.

the stack does the same thing but vertically as I understand it.

It will all be hum-cancelling.

Edit: The only time in which it wont be hum-cancelling is if you split the pickups, in which case you could series/parallel them instead of series/split them.

Editx2: are you using this diagram? http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=h_2stks4_1v_2t_s5w

if so then no, your notch positions wont be hum-cancelling since it auto-splits them in the positions.

 

[BetaCAM]

Re: Will this wiring work?

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying...
I'll try to make my question more clearly.

In the Schematics the positions 2 and 4 are hum canceling but the pickups are split... meaning that on position 2 the neck and middle are split and not working full... same goes for position 4...

I don't know if the the splits mean they are in parallel or series, it doesn't say,
I'm not sure if it's any importance there.

This is why I asked if there will be hum canceling with these positions as there is no middle pickup with reversed polarity...

Edit: my purpose is to make a standard strat wiring with auto split with the humbucker, but without any hum when the middle pickup is with the bridge pickup...

 

[DazH]

Re: Will this wiring work?

I'm afraid not mate, once you split them they become "true" single coils & will hum unless there is a rw/rp true single coil aswell.

Edit: saying that though, surely that pickup is designed to give you single coil tone regardless? - I think i'd try it with a standard 5-way and series/parallel the humbucker & see how it goes.

I dont think you can make a super 5-way parallel in specific positions like you can split (maybe artie can chime in on that one)

basically you can wire pickups in 3 ways::

Series: high output (both coils = hum-cancelling) for beefy humbucker tones
Split: (true single coil) (halfed into 1 coil = hum) for true single coil tone
parallel: Faux single coil tone (both coils but halfed output = hum-cancelling) hum-cancelling but much the same tone as split.

 

[BetaCAM]

Re: Will this wiring work?

Then I suppose the only way is to use the push pull to wire the humbucker in parallel mode to decrease its output and get more high end from it hopefully it will simulate position 4 in a convincing manner.

I'll buy a regular 5 way toggle switch and do this with the push pull then...

Thanks...

 

[DazH]

Re: Will this wiring work?

Dont rush in and buy anything quite -yet- mate. try messaging our wiring guru "artietoo" he might be able to give you a more elaborate solution.

 

[BetaCAM]

Re: Will this wiring work?

thanx... I sent him a message hopefully he sees this thread and hopefully he'll come up with something useful...

 

[Artie]

Re: Will this wiring work?

This is fairly simple, in that you have only two "good" solutions.

1. Can you return the middle pup for a rw/rp? The STK-S4's are sold that way.

2. Just wire them up in the "normal" Strat mode. They'll still sound great.

The reason, (as I understand it), for wanting to do the auto-split with these is that any stack, even a really good one like the STK-S4, sacrifices a tiny bit of high-end jangle for the noiseless property. So, by splitting them, you get back that little extra "edge" that would otherwise be missing.

From what I understand, however, the STK-S4's do a really good job of capturing single-coil chime. So I wouldn't really worry about it. I've never actually heard these myself, (other than a clip here in the forum), so I can only pass along what I've read here.