Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
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Re: Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
I am not sure what a Big Apple Strat does with the wiring. I use a 2 HB/1 VOL/1TONE wiring with my Music Mans, but it involves flipping a magnet. All positions are hum cancelling and in phase, though. I wrote a blog about it.
I am not sure what a Big Apple Strat does with the wiring. I use a 2 HB/1 VOL/1TONE wiring with my Music Mans, but it involves flipping a magnet. All positions are hum cancelling and in phase, though. I wrote a blog about it.
Re: Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
Flip the magnet how? side to side or turn it upside down?
Flip the magnet how? side to side or turn it upside down?
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im a little confused by the diagram, the orientation of the switch? this is what my pickguard looks like. one side of the switch has a metal wall, that side is facing the bottom of the pickguard. I'd hate to wire this all up and realize the switch is backwards.
im a little confused by the diagram, the orientation of the switch? this is what my pickguard looks like. one side of the switch has a metal wall, that side is facing the bottom of the pickguard. I'd hate to wire this all up and realize the switch is backwards.
tone4days
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Re: Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
slide the magnet out carefully then, either, roll it like a kayak or rotate it 180 degrees like a propeller
that pic has me concerned
on the pickup that gets the flipped mag, dont you also have to wire the green and black reverse of what is 'normal'?
artie? dave?
slide the magnet out carefully then, either, roll it like a kayak or rotate it 180 degrees like a propeller
that pic has me concerned
on the pickup that gets the flipped mag, dont you also have to wire the green and black reverse of what is 'normal'?
artie? dave?
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Yes, please let me know if the flipped magnet pickup's wire colors are swapped. I'm not going to wire this until i know for sure. Thanks for your help
Yes, please let me know if the flipped magnet pickup's wire colors are swapped. I'm not going to wire this until i know for sure. Thanks for your help
Re: Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
Hmm, I'd have to check, but I think I had that drawn for me by someone here...if it is incorrect (and I corrected it when I wired my guitar-it was years ago), I am not sure. Can someone check?
I dig the inside/outside coil thing. I think it sounds better than north/south. I use it on a few guitars.
Hmm, I'd have to check, but I think I had that drawn for me by someone here...if it is incorrect (and I corrected it when I wired my guitar-it was years ago), I am not sure. Can someone check?
I dig the inside/outside coil thing. I think it sounds better than north/south. I use it on a few guitars.
tone4days
Heel Whacker
Re: Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
artie - i was a skeptic until i tried inners/outers
it's really that good ... the tonal differences between the 'inners' and outers' are very noticeable and highly useful/musical ... doing the mag flip and reverse wiring keep them humcancelling and properly phased .... i think there is a way to achieve the same thing by putting the pickup in upside down ... the only time i didnt go back and rework an H-H guitar to get inners and outers was my semi-hollow .... too much fuss to dig and fish with my fat fingers but i do wish i had heard of it when i did that guitar in 86
artie - i was a skeptic until i tried inners/outers
it's really that good ... the tonal differences between the 'inners' and outers' are very noticeable and highly useful/musical ... doing the mag flip and reverse wiring keep them humcancelling and properly phased .... i think there is a way to achieve the same thing by putting the pickup in upside down ... the only time i didnt go back and rework an H-H guitar to get inners and outers was my semi-hollow .... too much fuss to dig and fish with my fat fingers but i do wish i had heard of it when i did that guitar in 86
tone4days
Heel Whacker
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go find an old school used PRS and play a custom 22 or 24 H-H guitar with the 5 way (rotary?) pickup selector ... the 3 in the middle are inners (parallel) and outers (parallel) and then one of those pairs in series
go find an old school used PRS and play a custom 22 or 24 H-H guitar with the 5 way (rotary?) pickup selector ... the 3 in the middle are inners (parallel) and outers (parallel) and then one of those pairs in series
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PFDarkside
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I've not done it, but I'm super intrigued to try. I think the reason is that two screws or two slugs provides more tonal difference than swapping which N/S pair you are using. Of course if you are only using one "dual split" position, maybe it doesn't matter as much.
I've not done it, but I'm super intrigued to try. I think the reason is that two screws or two slugs provides more tonal difference than swapping which N/S pair you are using. Of course if you are only using one "dual split" position, maybe it doesn't matter as much.
Re: Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
I have done it for years. I get 2 usable sounds that sound different from one another. Without any gain, they are quieter than their full coil counterparts, but add even just a little and they sound really good, not unlike a Tele in the middle position or one of the in between Strat positions. I use an Alnico II Pro with either a 59/Custom Hybrid, Custom Custom, or Custom 5. I'd think this setup would be more popular than it is.
But modifying the pickups wasn't hard at all.
I have done it for years. I get 2 usable sounds that sound different from one another. Without any gain, they are quieter than their full coil counterparts, but add even just a little and they sound really good, not unlike a Tele in the middle position or one of the in between Strat positions. I use an Alnico II Pro with either a 59/Custom Hybrid, Custom Custom, or Custom 5. I'd think this setup would be more popular than it is.
But modifying the pickups wasn't hard at all.
Hyperborea
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Re: Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
I am planning to do something similar - same wiring but in a Steinberger Synapse. The diagram above in post #6 is the same as I was intending to use except that one has the note that "Bridge Humbucker should be rw/rp". If you don't have a RW/RP humbucker then you need to create one by flipping the magnet in one of the pickups and reversing the wiring - black to ground and green to hot - in one of the pickups.
This thread made me look through the wiring diagram more carefully and another issue that I noticed is that the inside / outside settings seem to be wrong. I'm not 100% sure though so if somebody could check that and confirm that would be much appreciated.
In position 2 the white and red are connected to the ground so shorting out the screw coils leaving only the stud or inner coils. In position 4 the white and red are connected to the hot and so shorting out the stud coils leaving only the screw or outer coils. This is the reverse of the description of the switch positions.
I am planning to do something similar - same wiring but in a Steinberger Synapse. The diagram above in post #6 is the same as I was intending to use except that one has the note that "Bridge Humbucker should be rw/rp". If you don't have a RW/RP humbucker then you need to create one by flipping the magnet in one of the pickups and reversing the wiring - black to ground and green to hot - in one of the pickups.
This thread made me look through the wiring diagram more carefully and another issue that I noticed is that the inside / outside settings seem to be wrong. I'm not 100% sure though so if somebody could check that and confirm that would be much appreciated.
In position 2 the white and red are connected to the ground so shorting out the screw coils leaving only the stud or inner coils. In position 4 the white and red are connected to the hot and so shorting out the stud coils leaving only the screw or outer coils. This is the reverse of the description of the switch positions.
PFDarkside
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Re: Wiring for 2 HUM 1VOL 1TONE Super-5Way
That's what I figured, and it seems quite useful.
