Wiring question 3 single coils

[orpheo]

Hello guys,

I tried the freeway 10 switch again against my better judgement and it is a nightmare.

I need the following options, is this doable?

Regular 5 strat positions
neck & mid in series
Bridge and mid in series
Neck and bridge parallel

I have a superswitch (4 pole) and a 2 way 3 pole togglw available. Under the volume and tone I have 2 push pulls for phase reversal (bridge and mid) so that's tackled.

The guitar is almost done. Just the freeway isn't doing it for me.

 

[Artie]

Doodling some stuff now.

 

[Artie]

I've got my morning coffee. I'm preparing a long-winded response. It's complicated.

Two quick notes:

1. You'll almost certainly need to buy another switch or two, to make this work. This is a very complex wiring scheme.

2. Do you want the ability to have both, the N/M series switch, and the M/B series switch, on at the same time? Ergo, all three pups in series simultaneously.
(I probably wouldn't do that.) The alternative is do-able. Drawing it up as we speak.

 

[orpheo]

I'd love to have N/M and B/M to be in series, so it's like a standard series or parallel setting.

There is a wiring, though, that was posted on this forum a while ago but I have NO idea if that one is correct. I added here below!

I have the 5 way switch and I have a 4 pole 2 position toggle, so if this works, I guess I'm all sorted? This adds more options though than what I initially asked for but that's okay.

 

[Artie]

I'd love to have N/M and B/M to be in series, so it's like a standard series or parallel setting.

But do you want both at once? (All three singles in series.) I have that done. I'll post the drawing here in a bit.

I'm also drawing it up with a 4PDT on-on-on. This will allow:

Middle: Normal operation.
Up: N / M series.
Down: M / B series.

That's how I'd do it. But I need to know how you want it. Then there's another issue, but I can't address that 'til you answer that question.

P.S. I'm studying that above diagram.

 

[orpheo]

If the schematic I posted above works (I do not know that), I'm all set. If not: I'd like to use 1 switch to make b&m and n&m in position 2 and 4 to be series in stead of parallel. If that's possible. but if the above schematic works, we're all done.

 

[Artie]

That schematic works, with one little mod. In the #5 position, they're turning the neck pup off by floating it's ground. That puts that coil hangin' on the hot side of the circuit. Big ole noise antenna.

But an easy fix. Add the cyan jumper I show here. That shorts out the neck single to make it silent. (This also negates using the diagram I posted in your other thread.)

 

[Artie]

Oops. Poop. I drew it wrong. Move the left cyan side, (where the finger is), to the terminal below. Gimme a sec. I'll fix it.

 

[Artie]

Never mind. They both work. Do it either way.

 

[orpheo]

excellent, will do! Many thanks. Just to make sure I'm not making a mistake:

The neck pickup lead goes directly to the volume pot?

Also: can I hook up the bridge and the middle pickup to a phase reversal switch, or will that crap out the schematic?

 

[Artie]

excellent, will do! Many thanks. Just to make sure I'm not making a mistake:

The neck pickup lead goes directly to the volume pot?

Yes. It's turned "off" by virtue of shorting it out. (You must add my cyan jumper.)

Also: can I hook up the bridge and the middle pickup to a phase reversal switch, or will that crap out the schematic?

I think so, but let me study that diagram for a bit to make sure. Phase reversal, (polarity), is usually independent of anything else.

You want 2 switches to do each individually, or one switch do reverse both at once?

 

[Artie]

Like this. You can use two DPDT switches, or one 4PDT switch.

 

[Artie]

Or two push-pulls.

 

[orpheo]

okay thanks.good to know.

wait. one 4pdt? a 4 pole 3position switch? so in the middle it's both in phase, to one side bridge out of phase,right middle out of phase? you mean that? Won't I need an on/off/on switch to do that?

 

[Artie]

No, no. If you want to reverse the phase of both pickups with one switch, (maybe not likely), you'd use a 4PDT on-on switch. Just two positions. In phase and OOP.

 

[orpheo]

Acknowledged. I thought I could have 1 switch to toggle between regular operation (both in phase), bridge out of phase&middle in phase, and bridge in phase&middle out of phase.

I tried that huge switch, and it works, but the phase push pull pots are giving me grief. In certain settings, the push pull phase switch simply shorts out the entire circuit. Not sure why. I'm going to get rid of the push pull pots and use 2 small toggles to test further. This wiring is a nightmare but I want it sorted. The tones I am getting already are amazing and the phase options I am getting that do work, sound amazing too.

 

[orpheo]

I have found a 3 position 4 pole switch. I think I can use that to have the 3 phase options I need?

position 1: bridge phase flipped, middle phase stock
position 2: both phase untouched
position 3: bridge phase untouched, middle phase flipped

Can I do this with a 3 position 4 pole?

 

[Artie]

I have found a 3 position 4 pole switch. I think I can use that to have the 3 phase options I need?

position 1: bridge phase flipped, middle phase stock
position 2: both phase untouched
position 3: bridge phase untouched, middle phase flipped

Can I do this with a 3 position 4 pole?

Yes. I'm heading out to a Dr's appointment. I'll post the diagram when I get back.

 

[orpheo]

Yes. I'm heading out to a Dr's appointment. I'll post the diagram when I get back.

Hey man, just curious if you managed to sort out this wiring idea of the phase.

 

[Artie]

Hey man, just curious if you managed to sort out this wiring idea of the phase.

Sorry. Forgot. I'll doodle it up this morning with my coffee.