Would such thing sell ???

Dr.Mavashi

neonderthalotonalogist
TubePort ..... I was thinking the other day that I should take my Laney AOR and my Lite Mass to my bro's place so he can dial his pro-tools right to record direct out of my Mass' line out. And then I got an idea, a thingy that has an EL34/L, 616, KT77/88, EL84 inside it and you feed it with the EFX loop's OUT from your amp's pre-amp, it takes the natural/real charachter of the tube selected attenuates with a build in attenuater and "models it" with modeling "block" to say AC30/Marshalls/Mesas/Bogners etc for the direct line out to the board. That is you take you beloved amp, pre-amp actualyl, plug it in to this thing it has real tube inside it, it takes you pre-amp and gives your dream, for example an AC30 on KT77s attenuated down for the direct recording. What ya' think dudes?
 
Re: Would such thing sell ???

I think I don't completely understand your idea. You want to be able to plug a device that has one of each major type of tube into the output of your amp?
 
Re: Would such thing sell ???

The sweetness of power tubes are always associated with a signal coming out of a loudspeaker. If it's fed into a load box, DI, and then into a modeler for recording then it's only going to sound as good as the best modeling technology out there. Sounds like a good idea in theory but in practice the power stage would be "wasted" in being reduced down to a DI signal.

Come to think of it, my EL84 Peavey 50/50 Power Amp pretty much does what you've described minus being able to use an array of different valves. It has both an XLR and standard Line Out jack that you can feed into a mixer. I've tried using it before and it didn't sound good at all. Typical buzzy DI tone. For distortion anyways.

There are those Palmer products around that sound pretty decent that are designed to take a direct signal from an amp. Doesn't sound as good as miking up the real thing though.
 
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Somebody here told me that Line OUT on Lite Mass DIed can produce wonderfull results if you take time and loose a lot of blood from your anal dialing in. What I thought of was this you take an out of your EFX loop and plug it into the "TubePort" there the first stage is the modeling block where you chose your "plexis and AC30s, etc" then signal is sent to the actual TubePort that has the "library" of power tubes where you also get to select, after that the attenuated signal sent direct to the board ...... you can by pass the attenuation and send it to a speaker cab ... now that I think about it would be like a rack unit sitting in your EFX loop that can be bypassed. It would give you a tonal option live or it can be a racording "tube pallet"
 
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Rid, care to comment, feel free to rip on this "true bypass" style if you feel like it ....
 
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There is a bunch of high end real tube preamps on the market for digital recording. It IS a good idea. But it's already been done.:cool2:
 
Re: Would such thing sell ???

Somebody here told me that Line OUT on Lite Mass DIed can produce wonderfull results if you take time and loose a lot of blood from your anal dialing in. What I thought of was this you take an out of your EFX loop and plug it into the "TubePort" there the first stage is the modeling block where you chose your "plexis and AC30s, etc" then signal is sent to the actual TubePort that has the "library" of power tubes where you also get to select, after that the attenuated signal sent direct to the board ...... you can by pass the attenuation and send it to a speaker cab ... now that I think about it would be like a rack unit sitting in your EFX loop that can be bypassed. It would give you a tonal option live or it can be a racording "tube pallet"
So basically a moddelling tube power amp with concentration on DI use. I think its sounds like a good idea, maybe you could feed it with a randall (is it RM4) pre amp and you'll have the ultimate modelling setup.
 
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Well that depends on how good you are with mic'ing!
The Palmer always delivers!
Consistenecy is always better than maybe's!

Yeh it is extremely easy to get a bad sound with a microphone with all the variables.
 
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i don't thinks so. It'll be too expensive and too impractical to have around when a simple pod or tonelab direct to board does the trick. in this day and age of digital recording, sound, tone can be edited manipulated in protools or other various programs plugins.
 
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yeah i don't really understand it

but what i do understand seems cool

i had an idea for a thing to go between your head & your cab that'd boost the signal like 3-12db, so all you'd need was like a 5 watt amp & that thing

but i have no idea if it'd even be possible
 
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